After I get punched in the mouth I usually have to spend a few days with a festering wound on my inner lower lip.
It takes the joy out of eating and talking 'cuz it hurts, worse than the punch actually.
Anybody know what I can do to help?
I am in Taiwan so I don’t have access to fancy medicines. Is there an old boxer remedy?
You’d think there was an old CMA remedy, but I have never heard of it.
I belive its called blocking
Chili peppers.
Lot of those in Taiwan.
http://www.fiery-foods.com/dave/healing3.html
Relief For Sore Mouth Suffering
In what often must seem like a wicked twist of fate, most patients who receive radiation or chemotherapy to the head and neck develop serious oral lesions. The treatment necessary to make them better, at least initially, can make them feel worse. These sores of the mouth, or oral mucositis, are not only painful but “also can limit adequate nutritional intake and can decrease willingness of patients to continue treatment,” according to the study Capsaicin for the Treatment of Oral Mucositis Pain, which appeared in the bulletin Principles & Practices of Oncology in January 1995.
The use of capsaicin as a reliever of mouth pain has a long history. A sixteenth century Franciscan monk living in Mexico found that the Aztec Indians used chiles as a “remedy to an injury to the tongue; biting of the tongue; laceration of the tongue.” The treatment was to cook chiles with salt, and then spread the mixture on the tongue. Next bee honey or thickened maguey syrup was spread on. Whether they knew it or not, the Aztecs were on to something big.
Currently in the United States and Europe, doctors are studying capsaicin, the chemical that makes chile hot, as a way to alleviate symptoms of the head, nose, mouth and respiratory tract.
One theory is that capsaicin is a counter-irritant, an irritation to an irritation, that stimulates the nerves it contacts directly. One theory is that this stimulation depletes the nerves of Substance P, a neuropeptide that transmits pain signals to the brain, which then reduces pain and irritation in a treated area. Capsaicin irritation also helps the body work more efficiently by causing a protective reaction, particularly in the digestive and respiratory tracts, in which excess fluids are produced to flush out an unwanted invader.
CUT INSIDE THE MOUTH
Natural Cures For a Cut Inside the Mouth - More Than Home Remedies
Apply Hydrogen Peroxide (one part hydrogen peroxide and one part water with a Q-tips cotton swab) on the cut. Then dab a small amount of Phillips Milk of Magnesia on the cut three to four times a day. This is not only soothing, but appears to help healing.
Also Myrrh Oil , Tea, Salt, Honey, Alcohol (copious amounts), are used in teatment of mouth sores.
http://www.holistic-online.com/Remedies/Canker/canker_herbs.htm
http://www.truestarhealth.com/Notes/2134003.html
Many many remedies here:
Modern covering medications:
http://www.archwired.com/canker_sore.htm
Kevin, I’ve always just used salt.
I was sparring this JKD dude and he was just nailing me with these ridge hands. I had a full set of cuts on the inside of both lips all the way around into my cheeks. I washed my mouth out w/ salt water 3/day and they were healed up in just a few days.
I developed a small lump after a cut didn’t heal one time. It kept swelling up like a blister and I’d have to burst it with a needle. Eventually I went to a dentist, then a specialist oral surgeon and turned out the cut I’d got had been across a mucous duct and where the scar tissue healed had sealed the duct. Mucous is continually produced and it couldn’t go anywhere so that’s why it kept swelling. Treatment was to cut a hole in the mouth and pull out several mucous ducts. 2 weeks before surgery it finally started to subside by itself, so I cancelled the surgery and it got better pretty quickly. It took about 4 months all up and only visibly improved in a few weeks. It was pretty static for the whole time up until the last little while. It sucked.
Don’t you guys use a mouthpiece? I never get cuts when I wear one, only when I don’t.
Not then (about 12 years ago) my old teacher never promoted the use of them.
And I evidently wasn’t smart enough to figure it out then.
I lost a tooth that got chipped in sparring around that time as well.
I know…stupid.
but, I have gotten cut lips from the mouthguard. the mouth guard helps save the teeth, not the lips.
What Oso said. Mine that time was as a result of an accident pretty much. Sparring I wear a mouthguard, but not just for regular training. IIRC the shot that cut my lip that time was totally out of context for what we were training at the time - it just slipped through and I missed it. (i.e. we were probably just doing training drills or something)
Greetings,
I have used warm water with salt or baking soda (dissolves better) several times a day.
The mouthpieces the football players use have a covering that covers the lips. All you would need to do is cut the strap that attaches to the helmet. Now there is a problem and that is the part that protects the teeth is not very sophisticated; it is more like a horse bit for human beings.
mickey
^ Got a link?
I’ve gotten some nasty looking cuts before on my lip and inner lip from my mouthpiece.
I used to get these all the time in Judo, my solution? get a quality mouth-guard.
There are various canker-sore medicine in drug stores, also use mouth-wash.
Hi IronFist,
Check the Pro Lip and Mouth Guard. I am surprised MAs And MMAs are not using them.
http://www.footballamerica.com/default.asp?file=shopdisplayproducts&fext=asp&id=23&subcat=133
As you can see, the part for the teeth not too sophisticated.
mickey
i think you also need to consider that we are probably using mouthguards designed as secondary protection as primary protection.
Football players have a helmet w/ faceguard on. So,no direct contact with the teeth.
Boxers have a thick glove that also helps protect the teeth. (NOT saying anything about power delivery via gloved or ungloved hands, that’s beendone to death) THe target of a punch to the head is the brain.
A barehanded punch to the teeth, even with a mouth guard, is going to pop some teeth loose if not out. And it will sure as hell bust the lip.
Cheap mouthguards basically are protection against chipping your teeth during light to moderate contact.
The better mouthguards offer resistance to concussion.
Greetings,
Oso, I agree with all that you say. IronFist was asking about lip protection.
There is one industry that can be of help to us and that is the dental industry. I understand that the mouthguards they make are much better than that you can but in stores (never tried them though). They may be able to come up with a darn good mouthguard that offers lip protection. They will bust their last nut to come up with one if they see there is money to be made.
Just tell them what you need.
mickey
Ditio. But mine was one of the back teeth, so I don’t think the mouth guard would have helped much. The tooth just sort of crumbled into 5 or 6 pieces. 
But I would also recomend salt water, preferably sea salt. I’m not sure why, but sea salt seems to heal wounds quiker. Every type of wound responds to this from mouth injury to new piercings. But table salt seems to work, too.
i got kicked in the face, my cheek swelled up a bit thats its.
I got swept and landed on my face. :eek: I also had a lovely rug burn along my chin and jaw, as my partner and I were working in my old family room which had burber.
more pain than a punch
Thanks folks for the good ideas.
I liked the one tidbit of information advising me to start blocking and defending.
Little do you know that I block with my lips.
I have tried hot pepper bits,
baking soda, heard it works on jelly fish stings along with vinegar.
And also salt.
And after all this painstaking research I determine that baking soda works best with a close second by salt.
I just mix them in water.
Too strong a mixture cause intense burning pain, but without an increased ability to stop the pain.
I tried placing hot pepper bits between cheek and gum, just like chewin’ teebacky.
Made me feel like a macho cowboy, until the sensation of capsicum entered my nerve pathways.
Vinegar just hurts, maybe I’ll mix it with water next time.
Well this research has been exciting. Look forward to more mouth punches to try new pain mixtures.
Mouth gaurd sounds best. I’ll research that when I move to the states.
Whoops! That probably was too much.
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However, if you wanted to try this you would probably have to experiment with recipes as:
“the Aztec Indians used chiles as a “remedy to an injury to the tongue; biting of the tongue; laceration of the tongue.” The treatment was to cook chiles with salt, and then spread the mixture on the tongue. Next bee honey or thickened maguey syrup was spread on.”
So some experimentation with recipe may be needed.
Also individuals vary as to the amount of capsaicin they require.
“What they found was a relationship between the number of tastebuds a person has and the amount of burn from capsaicin they feel. Specifically, they determined that people fall into three basic groups; 25 percent are non-tasters, who have the fewest amount of tastebuds, and feel the burn the least. About 50 percent are medium-tasters, who have a medium amount of taste buds, and feel some heat. And last, 25 percent are classified as super-tasters, who have the most tastebuds, and feel the most burn from capsaicin. This study was significant because it helped to confirm that different strengths of capsaicin applied to the tongue in specific intervals would be necessary to desensitize the mucous membrane of the entire mouth.”
The theory is: “that capsaicin is a counter-irritant, an irritation to an irritation, that stimulates the nerves it contacts directly.”