When a form has lost its lineage (as in no one knows where it came from) it is often refferred to as Mizong quan (lost track). So many different styles will have forms called Mizong Quan and there are even complete styles all of which are unrelated to the YanQing Quan, the actual Mizong Quan.
Also Mizong later became a term for describing styles which are deceptive. So particularly deceptive forms in a style could also be called Mizong Quan without the forms being related to the style YanQIng Quan.
Certainly the Shaolin XinYi Mizong quan forms are probably named for these reasons as opposed to being related to Mizong Quan.
In fact there are probably many more ‘Mizong Quan’ forms in China that are unrelated to actual Mizongquan than those that are.
Yes, my teacher’s mizong is not from jingwu, though they share an ancestor at some point. I think the jingwu branch is mizong luohan, am I right? He drew me a little chart before, but I can’t read it. At the time I knew 0 Chinese, and his English was pretty minimal.
I think some of the wutan guys (Liu Yun Qian students) do a non-jingwu version of mizong quan too.
The form I know I think is a mizong version of the popular mantis form “xiao hu yan quan”. I’m going to try and record a walk through of it. I can’t really put any strength or speed into it (or even do decent stances, lol). Had lots of bad health problems and I’m only recently starting to do any training again. Let myself get fat and out of shape
Anyway, the mizong/yanqing quan tends to be a longfist system with plenty of internal training too (there are soft taiji type forms too). There’s a pretty wide variety of forms that differ between systems, but I think someone listed some of the more common/well known core forms.
[QUOTE=RenDaHai;1083736]On an interesting side note;
Certainly the Shaolin XinYi Mizong quan forms are probably named for these reasons as opposed to being related to Mizong Quan.
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Yeah, that seems likely, though I do see some similarity between the two. Could be the long distant Shaolin connection many northern longfist type forms share though.
