Mi Zhong Tang Lang

This may be controversial for some traditionalists.

Kai Uwe Pel, stated that Little Tiger Sparrow is from Mi Zhong Yi.
I went to ask my shrfu and this is what he said.

" When I learned Hu Yen forms from my shrfu (Sun Rong Zhai) he stated that this is from Mi Zhong Yi. At the time I wondered if that was true."

So since master Sun passed away my shrfu has found nothing to prove what Shrye Sun stated.

BTW, He learned this Little Tiger Sparrow from several masters, but the second two only from Sun.

So the Mizhong Yi forms that Sun Rongzhai taught in the Hu Yen series are Hsiao, Zhong, Da.
Three forms.

It is interesting to note that Shrye Sun also taught 4 Road Running Strike, somewhat different from other versions I have seen.
As well as another similar type form called Continuous Kicks(about 60 kicks in that one form).

Then I went to my Shrfu’s elder kung fu brother and asked him.
He stated simply that Sun Rongzhai taught Mi Zhong Chuen and he didn’t make up those forms, but learned them since he was a little boy in Shandong.

This is important since it has been said(me included) that the second two Hu Yen forms were created in Taiwan.
But it would now seem to be that these forms go back before that time.

Now what we need is to find these two Hu Yen forms in China, either in a Mantis school or in a Mi Zhong school.

This may be impossible as many highly skilled masters only taught a handful of people and passed away virtually unknown.

And finally, maybe Fernando can give his opinion on the possibility of Mi Zhong Tang Lang being a name that should be considered legit.

Now what we need is to find these two Hu Yen forms in China, either in a Mantis school or in a Mi Zhong school.

I’ll try to contact my teacher about it, he knows Mizong… I think he also mentioned learning mantis in Shandong once.

Very interesting.

While the Xiaohuyan (cant speak of the zhong and da as they apparently dont exist in Tanglang on the mainland, barring Luo Guangyu’s descendants), may very well be a mizong influenced, or even borrowed form, it does not exist in that incarnation in the mizong curriculum. I have no doubt that it’s parent is from outside of system, but the Xiao Huyan definitely became Tanglang Quan and would have to be altered significantly to lose it mantis flavour.
As far as I am aware da and zhong huyan have never been practiced as part of the Qixing curriculum in Shandong and if they were, have completely dissapeared. Then again nothing would suprise me…
b.t

BTW; its no secret that Qixing Tanglang is made up of elements of Qixing Quan, Er Lang Quan, Tongbi Quan, Sun Bin Quan, Mizong Quan and so on.

Good going guys…

Great inputs, thanks. I would love to hear Fernado’s comments as well.

Warm regards

Mantis108

greetings

We have a set with the similar name Cantonese (Siu Fu Ngan which is translated as small tiger eye but has been told to me to mean sparrow.

It was picked up at the Chin Woo of HK and eagleized (which is what eagle claw is known for).

Is there a source to view this set for comparrison??

thanks

eric

ngokfei,
Check the thread “What mantis form is this?”
The report your findings.
Thanks.