Master Bob Klein

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Has anyone heard of Master Bob Klein? He has a school of Tai Chi in Long Island NY.

I am interested in taking Tai Chi lessons. What does anyone think of the quality of his instruction, and does anyone know who he learned martial art systems from?

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I am pretty sure he is a William CC Chen student. Never heard much about his teaching or skill level

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I don’t think he’s a student of William C.C. Chen. Klein’s Tai Chi looks rather poor to me, but hey, I’m a Hsing-I & Bagua guy, so what do I know…

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cjurakpt

thx for the info.I have read your sifu book a while ago.I enjoyed the read.Its to bad he does not teach Tai Chi as a M.A. it’s really hard to find a competent teacher.Sam Chin I have met a few years ago,and crossed hands with his students and him.I was not overly impressed.

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I have always wondered about Kleins stuff myself. He supposedly does Northern Mantis, but I have never heard anything about him. Anymore info on him guys??

Cheers
Jake :cool:

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Hmmm

Bob Klein was a student of William C.C. Chen’s.

I don’t K. Frantzis for his Tai Chi at all, however his Bagua maybe good.

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I saw a video of Bob Klein teaching Tai chi using boxing gloves and hopping around like a monkey.What’s that all about? Is that something he learned fom William C C Chen of something he made up himself? Has anyone seen this?

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Hi Mike,
If you are looking for combative tai chi, I suggest that you look into the chen style tai chi because it retained alot more martial art applications. It’s a very complete art if you find a good teacher. I suggest you check out master Ren Guang Yi school. He is a student of grandmaster Chen Xiao Wang from chen village. I have most of his videos.

Later
Navin

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If you are looking for combative tai chi, I suggest that you look into the chen style tai chi because it retained alot more martial art applications.

Now that is just a silly remark! ALL Taiji, ALL Martial arts for that matter have martial applications, hence the name “Martial” art. Now a days it depends on the teacher. Tim can teach you Yang/Chen/Sun all with wicked kick ass apps. If your teacher does not know/won’t show apps, he has no clue. Period.
Cheers
Jake :cool:

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hi navin

I agree Three Harmonies all tai chi has combat applications and is a martial art and it really depends on the teacher totransmit the art.I think what Kung fu fighter was getting at is that it appears the chen style in general has been practiced and pass on more as a fighting art and has retained it’s fighting essence then the other styles.Most of the other styles just paractice it for health not for fighting.the yang style is a good examble.It has been modified so many times and has lost a lot of its combat essence.

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You call him a master, he’s like the ‘happy little trees’ guy of gongfu. He even looks like him. Thats like calling Bob Ross a master when M.C. Escher is around.

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Hi Jake,
He put out a vid on Gao Dao Sheng’s Tang Lang Hands form a while ago.
It included “applications”
I think he made them up and maybe learned from someone who learned from Gao, or a student of a student.

The motion is not mantis nor is the appz. I felt jipped seeing that tape.

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I understand that some of those applications were gleaned during his stint as a very in-demand Chippendale’s dancer.

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from his own words…

Check out our new e-zine article: Animal Fighting and Animal Chi-Gung by Bob Klein

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I had a Bob Klein video for a while I picked up back in the late 90’s. I gave it away because it was just too different from what I was training, it didn’t mesh. I did William CC Chen’s Tai Chi for ten years.

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Bob Klein received his Tai-chi-Chuan teaching certificate from Grandmaster William C. C. Chen in 1975. He has taught thousands of students at his school in Sound Beach, Long Island, N. Y. and at other Tai-chi schools, universities and hospitals.

I wonder what makes him qualified to teach other styles of kung fu? Or for that matter, if master Chen talks to animals with his chi?

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I second that Ren Guang Yi school. They do an aggrsive type of moving push hands allows sweeps and sometimes Qina. Mark Sabin I know is very good,but I wouldn’t recomend his teachings for self defence. He is more about health and spiritual stuff. And and H.Won TCC I think this is the Korean guy who does the dynamic push hands stuff on 34th street? If that’s him,his school is interesting but for realistic self defense ,that is a stretch.

Frank Allen and Tina are great. They teach application and have a sparring program that can fit anyones ablity.

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How can you possibly take this guy seriously? He claims to teach a billion styles (with no discussion of even how he learned them), his movement is, well, WACK :rolleyes: and now he’s taling about animal chi kung he made up :rolleyes:

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Anyone want to let these guys in on the fun?

www.bullshido.com

All smack talking aside, they seem to take fraud investigation very seriously. Just a disclaimer, I’m not laying down the accusation, so don’t flame me. But I am raising the question. With an obvious certification in William CC Chen’s 60 Movement Tai Chi, how then does one obtain the title of master or grandmaster, and then teach all these other styles?

As a side note, I’ve never heard anyone within the mantis community speak positive about his “Mayflower Mantis” video. I’ve seen it, and it hurt my eyes. I’m just sayin.