[QUOTE=laustick;719996]29 years ago the syllabus listed for 3rd black soar hou kwun and the dual
stick form.
Also there was an article in fighters magazine which was well over 30 years
ago which listed the weapons of lau gar which included the eyebrow hight
staff, and the 7 and half foot staff, kwan do, spear, butterfly knives, board
sword, ratten shield, tiger fork being the main weapon of the style,
but also saying the style is from the five families which i don’t know.
but in all the history they claim linage to three eyed lau who if i’am
right is said to be the founder of the lau gar five families[/QUOTE]
So if all the stick work was for 3rd degree, and the sword form was for 2nd (assuming it’s the same) where does the Butterfly knives form fit in. we do that.
Was that article about the mainland chinese style, or the style we do over here? Don’t suppose you still have the article do you?
I don’t practice Lau Gar but was looking into practicing it recently with a non-BKFA club so I did some online research.
The only online stuff relating to mainland China Lau Gar Kuen (Liujiaquan) was a Xiao Yong Ding of Zongshan, Guangdong province. This was an online version of a newspaper report.
There are also some English translation webpages which are excerpts of this article.
[QUOTE=Kaylun;720102]4th Butterfly knives+another sword
5th Tiger fork+ bat ging gung
6th Spear+ kwan dov shield and 1 butterfly knife+ other stuff
7th[/QUOTE]
Cheers for that. Seems odd our club does the butterfly knives form but not the staff stuff if the buttefly knives are supposed to be for a higher grade…
So I’m guessing that is all from the the 1984 revision of the syllabus (since it is split into 6 degrees)? Any idea if it was all in the original syllabus at all? Someone mentioned they had a 1978 one…
I’ve managed to get in contact with an American Guy who practises a Mainland style of LauGar. Be interesting to see what differences and similarities there are…
Had a reply from that guy, seems he does “Tao Shen Fon” LauGar or “Way of the Eternal Phoenix”. Apparently it’s rare even in mainland china. I’ve asked a few questions, but no reply so far…
BTW has anyone heard of Vincent Lewis? Apparently he teaches up in birmingham and does yet another version of the Lau Gar syllabus (the punch blocks are slightly different, and some of the forms are in a different order). I’ve tried googling but can’t find anything…
Now all I need is a translation, and we are sorted!
I tried sticking it through “BabelFish” for a laugh, and got the following:
“South the fist is high important person Cai nine , however many kinds of are many , but it basic request is common. In the technique, the upper limb does many, the strength is prominent; In the body law, deals with the turnover, depends on the awning ; In the step, four is even eight, Bryophyllum Pinnatum.”
Did someone ask for pics of this? I can’t be bothered reading through all the posts to find this out. If so I have found some scetches I did a few years ago which although not perfect give you an idea of the form.
now, I would assume (since it seems to be for the most part a HungGar school) that their Lau Gar is the stuff that turns up in Hung Gar, as already mentioned. However, they say it contains 2 hand forms, and one staff form - whereas all the other Hung Gar sites state that the “Lau Gar” they do is one hand form, one staff form. also this: http://www.mousavikungfu.co.uk/laugar2.html seems suspiciously like Bac Pye Jurn.
I posted the invite in the main bit but for those who missed it…
On the 22nd of Jan at the Sugden Centre in Manchester (UK) we are doing a free Lau Gar seminar. It will be from 6pm till 8pm and I’m not sure what we are covering yet :o .
There will be two Guardians (Steven Burton and David Eccles) and myself teaching. If you are in or near Manchester and want to come along then phone me on 07984 423857 or email me at: michael@manchesterdragons.co.uk .
I’m limiting the places to 30 so you must pre-book.
now, I would assume (since it seems to be for the most part a HungGar school) that their Lau Gar is the stuff that turns up in Hung Gar, as already mentioned. However, they say it contains 2 hand forms, and one staff form - whereas all the other Hung Gar sites state that the “Lau Gar” they do is one hand form, one staff form. also this: http://www.mousavikungfu.co.uk/laugar2.html seems suspiciously like Bac Pye Jurn.
Yes… but…
They also teach:
Shaolin Wing Chun
Tiger Boxing
Plum Blossom Boxing
Tibetan Praying Mantis
Shaolin Flower Boxing
Dragon Boxing
Golden Eagle
Monkey Boxing
Eight Drunken Immortals
Sap Fu Chaw
Shaolin Five Animals
Shaolin Ten Animals
Which I’m pretty sure aren’t all part of the Hung Kuen syllabus! So it might be they teach a bit of our Lau Gar as well…
