I would like to say that Professor Lau Bun’s Hung Sing Kwoon has a new location in the Kansai area of Japan with our newest representative Sifu John Aogishi.
anyone interested in contacting this school can send me a pm and i will forward you all the information. or email me at: sifufrank@gmail.com
thanks.
Here is a contact for a CLF practitioner in Japan also!
http://koushoukan.jp/choi_lei_fut.htm
enjoy
FT:)
cool,
we’re family with strong roots to Fut San Hung SIng Kwoon.
peace.
This teacher is from Chui Kwon line, but he is teaching 18 hands of luohan from the Chan family CLF. Just wonder where he get it.
Mabye he learned from people. . . . . . like, people in the Chan Family? Mabye?
J/K I’m just trying to be an ass on purpose.
But seriously he might have not listed that in his lineage chart.
It seems that school is very self-defense oriented, and I really hate the belt system, but whatever, if they’re the real deal than A-OK with me.
Edit:
I see Tam Sam in his lineage chart. . . . is he Buk Sing then?
chui kwon yuen’s father chui chueng was originally a student of Tam Sam, who eventually sent him to another teacher of higher generation.
basically, he is both hung sing and buk sing yet in the end both are still Hung SIng lineage of Jeong Yim.
hsk
that’s pretty awesome, i’m wonderin if he’s givin those JMA a run for their money?
how ya doin there mysteri?
yeah, i hope our choy lee fut goes well over there.
what are you involved in? ma wise?
hsk
hey HSK,
i train jow ga(hung tao choy mei) under Sifu Hoy K. Lee(www.jowgakungfu.com) in southeast Virginia. i like to follow a bit of CLF since it’s kinda similar to jow ga. a lot of CLF schools are known to dish out pretty good fighters and i think that’s important to establish over there in japan as well. they already have a lot of well-respected JMA, i’m jus hopin that the “Sai Ri Futsu” guys over there are reppin’ well for us 
. i’m sure they are as well. i have a Hung Ga friend out that way(Sifu Mike Goodwin) and he seems pretty eager to meet ya some time soon. hopefully i’ll have the chance one day myself.
isn’t that hella funny…
SAI RI Futsu…Sai ri futsu…i am a student of the Sai Ri Futsu school. LOL
I know i should clown their language but compared to Choy Lee FUt, Sai Ri Futsu sounds darn funny.
where is sifu goodwin at? In the bay area here?
Are you in virginia now?
hsk
Sai Ri Futsu is the Japanese reading of the Chinese Characters of Choi Lei Fut. Im sure it sounds strange to people who are not used to it, like Kou Shou Kan (Hung Sing Koon).
But, Sai Ri Futsu sounds like the mandarin Tsai Li Fo. The Japanese language has no “L” sound thus Ri instead of Li, and words cannot end in consonants thus Futsu instead of Fut. Not that different actually.
In China, people say Toi Keun Do (tae kwon do), Hung Sau Do (karate), Yau Do (judo), Hap Hei Do (aikido), Bok Gik (boxing), etc. Just the way Cantonese translates these styles names, nothing intended.
Kou Shou Kan has been in Japan since 2000. It is not an easy matter for a Chinese Martial Art to be taught in Japan… especially for a western teacher. But the style has taken strong root and students of the academy have competed in several open competitions in the last 2 years, with no losses yet. It is drawing interest, as it is uncommon for such an art to be seen in Japan, especially in competitions, and has been featured in 2 Japanese magazines.
Are you the Shihan for the school in japan kei lun?
tell me, so far how well has japan embraced choy lee fut?
are you familiar with the Kansai area of japan?
hsk
hey hsk,
yeah, sifu goodwin(u might have met him as Daifong on other forums) is in the Bay area. yes, i’m in Virginia now where i train and live.
kei lun,
thanx for the input. very interesting information.
mysteri,
cool. do you know wher in the bay area he stays?
so whats the MA scene like in virginia? do you have a small or good size of various martial arts there? what is the most popular one there?
frank
hsk
i’m actually not quite sure whereabouts. at any rate, i think he might be contacting u some time within the next few weeks to make a formal introduction and meet up.
virginia MA scene? well, i’m in southeast virginia(like virginia beach/norfolk area) so there’s not much happenin here much along the lines of CMA, but of course u can’t throw a rock and not hit a TKD school(or a church, lol). there’s no local chinatown(closest one is prolly Washington, DC) and we’re definitely not as culturally diverse as somewhere like san fran or NYC. only thing we have goin for us is that we’re a military town, so if it weren’t for that(and the tourists), we prolly wouldn’t have much here, lol. MMA is growin more popular, but nuttin major really. we typically travel out of town to go to any worthwhile tournaments.
hskwarrior,
Yes I am. Japan seems to take rather well to CLF. There has been alot of positive interest here. Our original class started in Budokan (a government run center for preservation of martial arts in Japan) and many teachers from other styles who teach in the institute often come to watch the class.
But due to the popularity of competitive martial arts in Japan I believe the only way to secure the art in the country is to prove its worth in martial art competitions (their rules and their terms) which we are slowly doing.
I am familiar with the Kansai area (west side), it contains Osaka and Kyoto (the former capital city of Japan). It is quite beautiful and historic, but the weather in summer is quite hot and humid. We currently have classes running in Tokyo, Kawasaki and Yokohama (all Kanto area - east side) but have prospects in Kansai and northern Japan.
hskwarrior,
Yes I am. Japan seems to take rather well to CLF. Its circular nature is unlike all martial art styles in Japan. There has been alot of positive interest here. Our original class started in Budokan (a government run center for preservation of martial arts in Japan) and many teachers from other styles who teach in the institute often come to watch the class.
But due to the popularity of competitive martial arts in Japan I believe the only way to secure the art in the country is to prove its worth in martial art competitions (their rules and their terms) which we are slowly doing.
I am familiar with the Kansai area (west side), it contains Osaka and Kyoto (the former capital city of Japan). It is quite beautiful and historic, but the weather in summer is quite hot and humid. We currently have classes running in Tokyo, Kawasaki and Yokohama (all Kanto area - east side) but have prospects in Kansai and northern Japan.
kei lun,
very glad to hear about ur establishment in japan! i would be interested to know about some of the tournaments in japan. CLF has the reputation of being combat intensive(as opposed to a lot of other “CMA”), so i’m wondering how it is adjusting to tournaments around there. i think there are some kyoshinkai(sp?) tournaments within a few hours of hear, but they have some pretty interesting restrictions. but i’ve also heard that japan has some of the best full-contact tournaments, so it might seem ur in an ideal place to have ur guys hone their skills. jus a lot more interested in hearing about this side of ur experiences. thanx in advance.
Japan
Hello all…
Been away for a while. Lots of life situations and an impending ACL surgery because I can’t stop integrating MMA with my CLF.
Anyhoo, interesting story… My brother was in Aikido training a couple of years ago in the Yokohama area where he still resides. In conversation with his Sensei, he happened to mention that his younger brother was a serious Buck Sing Choy lay Fut practicioner.
His Sensei paused, thought for a second and reflectively stroked his chin, then replied: “Your brother must be the type of man that would train to shape his hand like a tiger’s in order to rip another man’s testicles off and toss them on the floor.” My brother wanted to laugh but he said his Sensei said it with utmost seriousness.
I guess Choy Lay Fut does get around.
k
mysteri,
Thanks for your good words. The current state of martial arts in Japan is that if they dont compete then they wont survive, business wise! There are many open martial art competitions here, mostly dominated by “kyokushin karate”. In our school we have a strong focus on using and understanding CLF, though forms are important and part of the curriculum they are not the primary focus of our training regiment.
In tournaments here there are many rules and restrictions, but we believe that CLF doesnt need to be modified in anyway to fight under these rules, just learn how to “do this” and “dont do that”. We have been pretty sucessful up to now and have adjusted to using the style under different conditions.
We should have a couple competitions in this year and hope to video tape them and post the clips on our homepage.
k no,
interesting story, CLF does get around and has been in Japan before us but those teachers have switched to teaching other styles and abandoned CLF. But from the research Ive done since being here Ive found that the style is virtually unknown here, too bad since it has flourished everywhere else!