Kids and uniforms

My Sifu used to have an “ugly belt” for uniform infractions. He got a seemstress to make a sash from the ugliest, most garish material, and people who forgot their sash or top etc had to wear it for the class.
I love the fact that people can make such insights into your club simply because you have a uniform policy Oso :rolleyes: Obviously the sense of belonging and group identity that uniform offers is so useless that major corporations and sports teams don’t use them :rolleyes:
I’m somewhat confused of late, I thought Neilthyholt was banned years ago :confused: If not, why isn’t he banned now? :wink:

[QUOTE=Ben Gash;747327]My Sifu used to have an “ugly belt” for uniform infractions. He got a seemstress to make a sash from the ugliest, most garish material, and people who forgot their sash or top etc had to wear it for the class.
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I’d just wear that one every week, if I had to wear one.

[QUOTE=Ben Gash;747327] I love the fact that people can make such insights into your club simply because you have a uniform policy Oso :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

because this is an internet forum? most specifically, a martial arts internet forum.

:confused: :stuck_out_tongue: :smiley:

[QUOTE=Water-quan;747335]I’d just wear that one every week, if I had to wear one.[/QUOTE]

i know what it is…you’re goth, aren’t you? :wink:

[QUOTE=Oso;747367]i know what it is…you’re goth, aren’t you? ;)[/QUOTE]

Heh… I had a black belt, but no one could notice over my black suit. Everyone thought I was a Ninja… but you’re right! I was a goth and it stopped people seeing my grade! Aya!

Uniforms are a waste of money for the people learning the martial art. I’ve always thought it extremely silly that you can’t train at a school because of the clothes you’re wearing.

In a fight not at your school or a tournament, you’ll be in street clothes.

So why not train in everyday clothing.

In my MMA gym nobody has uniforms. Yet everyone can fight. I don’t see that with CMA schools.

Are you teaching moral philosophy or how to fight.

If I ever teach Choy Lay Fut I won’t require anyone to wear uniforms. Just wear something conducive to martial arts - allowing free range of limb movement etc. Just sweats, shorts, a shirt, a jacket, sweatshirt, whatever they feel like. As long as everyone sweats hard and trains to fight hard.

Worrying about uniforms is silly.

Don’t they fight half naked in MMA? I hope I never get into a street fight like that! :eek:

Most people wear T-shirt or a sweatshirt, sometimes a long-sleeved shirt. Most people wear shorts, some people wear sweats.

Nobody fights half naked. Sometimes they’ll take off their shirts in sparring and whatnot, but almost everybody has a shirt on most of the time.

[QUOTE=Infrazael;747571]Uniforms are a waste of money for the people learning the martial art. I’ve always thought it extremely silly that you can’t train at a school because of the clothes you’re wearing.

In a fight not at your school or a tournament, you’ll be in street clothes.

So why not train in everyday clothing.

In my MMA gym nobody has uniforms. Yet everyone can fight. I don’t see that with CMA schools.

Are you teaching moral philosophy or how to fight.

If I ever teach Choy Lay Fut I won’t require anyone to wear uniforms. Just wear something conducive to martial arts - allowing free range of limb movement etc. Just sweats, shorts, a shirt, a jacket, sweatshirt, whatever they feel like. As long as everyone sweats hard and trains to fight hard.

Worrying about uniforms is silly.[/QUOTE]

Certainly. I agree. However, in CMA you’ll find yourself kicking above your head. You can’t do that in street clothes, b/c jeans/kakhis don’t give that kind of leg freedom without tearing hte seat of hte pants.

I know the counter to this is: so you wouldn’t ever kick above your head in jeans, so why train them? For strength and flexibility…

BTW, I train in a gi-like thingy (don’t know what CMA uniforms are called, sorry), but I often train in a pair of jeans or kakhis at home, or some sweat pants (it’s cold here). Each has its use. Many masters of old taught in regular day pants, with leather belts, and loafers…:smiley:

It’s gotta say something, right? Maybe you have a point.

Nobody fights half naked. Sometimes they’ll take off their shirts in sparring and whatnot, but almost everybody has a shirt on most of the time.

What kind of shorts are we taking about here, those “bicycle shorts” that you see them fight in on TV counts as half-naked to me.

Maybe they just like to show thier “stuff” on TV. :stuck_out_tongue:

It’s professional fighting. It pays (wink, wink) to have few entanglements by way of clothing. Gi-fighters are at a disadvantage against no-gi fighters. So they make up for it by losing the gi’s. It revolutionizes the sport…

But most fights I’ve ever seen, one of the dudes usually rips off his shirt. It’s wierd, kind 0f like a psyche-out…but maybe there’s a functional purpose to that, too. Hell, I’d prefer shirtless fighting in CMA, especially if we can get the chicks in on it.

I agree. However, in CMA you’ll find yourself kicking above your head. You can’t do that in street clothes, b/c jeans/kakhis don’t give that kind of leg freedom without tearing hte seat of hte pants.

Why train in something at all if you find yourself having a problem with its techniques in street clothes??

Cause if you can kick over your head, it would make it easier and faster to kick someones knee out.

Always do thing harder than actual. US Special Forces will do things more difficult than what has historically been required in their missions. In my firearms training, I will shoot maybe 300-500rds a month in competitions and various classes. Even though in an actual confrontation, I will only probably have to just draw the weapon to stop the confrontation or worse, just fire one shot.

[QUOTE=Kung Pao;747765]Certainly. I agree. However, in CMA you’ll find yourself kicking above your head. You can’t do that in street clothes, b/c jeans/kakhis don’t give that kind of leg freedom without tearing hte seat of hte pants.

I know the counter to this is: so you wouldn’t ever kick above your head in jeans, so why train them? For strength and flexibility…

BTW, I train in a gi-like thingy (don’t know what CMA uniforms are called, sorry), but I often train in a pair of jeans or kakhis at home, or some sweat pants (it’s cold here). Each has its use. Many masters of old taught in regular day pants, with leather belts, and loafers…:smiley:

It’s gotta say something, right? Maybe you have a point.[/QUOTE]

I rarely kick above the waist. Just leg kicks to the thighs, and stomp kicks to the shins/knees.

I train in jeans all the time. I can kick above the head with them.

I wear decently loose means. I am not ghey and Emo and wear super-tight jeans.

Have I explained things well? :slight_smile:

Cause if you can kick over your head, it would make it easier and faster to kick someones knee out.

Is that to me? My statement was to kung bro.

I don’t kick anything over groin level. Most of my kicks are target zoned to the knee and stomps.

Always do thing harder than actual. US Special Forces will do things more difficult than what has historically been required in their missions

This sounds good in theory and it is a nice maxim but really most people depending on there goals only have the time to train in a certain context.

[QUOTE=xcakid;747824]Cause if you can kick over your head, it would make it easier and faster to kick someones knee out.

Always do thing harder than actual. .[/QUOTE]

Although everyone knows why you say this, it is simply not true. Kicking above the head and kicking low are completely different techniques, requiring compeltely different mechanics, timing and distance and balance etc… Fact of the matter is, you need to train for what you want to be good at. In this instance, if you want to be good at low kickis, you practice low kicks, and if you want to make them harder than actual, you just practice them a lot, or decise training methods to improve timing, speed, power etc.

Sometimes I do wear pants that would allow for that kind of kick.

High kicks can be effective. I’ve seen 1 or 2 of them responsible for instant KO’s in the UFC during the past coulple of years. Kyoshukin fighters have excellent high kicks. Muay Thai uses them. And unless you’re fighting a pro, high kicks are incredibly effective.

Not my favorite technique. But I’ve seen people snap high kicks as fast as some pros punch. It’s not impossible.

And with a proper setup, you can bet I’d kick someone in the head or chest.

And I’d probably yell “Madness? This is Sparta!!!”

[QUOTE=Kung Pao;748074]Sometimes I do wear pants that would allow for that kind of kick.

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Chuck Norris action jeans?? With expandable gusset panel?

Great! Just what I needed on this subject, attitude from a parent because they didn’t see anything wrong with short shorts for kids class…:rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Water-quan;746910]Dq they have to wear orange uniforms as well?[/QUOTE]

NO but I will keep it in mind… :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Instead, I have been considering making my students wear speedo’s and muscle tanks - then we might fit in more and look just as pretty as the MMA peeps…

As for you peeps that cannot kick over your head… Here is the 411 for you… 501’s from Levi’s and Wrangler Jeans went out in the 80’s. If you’re still wearing pants that you have to paint on, then I can understand where you’re coming from. But, you should try picking up some Levi’s Silvertabs or some Quiksilver jeans. They’re nice and baggy - enough to kick over your head in. You might be able to pick up some decent jeans that are “kick proof” if you stop shopping at Wal-Mart.

~Jason