Nope.
I am not crazy about them either, though I really admire Lee’s contributions.
Too much revenge. Too much killing.
Ifeel similar to HuangKaiVun, Didnt like the ideas in his films , hey i didnt even like his attitude, but the guy did alot for the westernisation of kung fu (whether you consider that a good or bad thing)
I’ll always remember him best for KATO
Originally posted by Souljah
He had the cinema side of it while the ‘Kung FU’ TV series did alot of the other work as far as bringing Kung fu over went.
(which bruce was asked to play the lead in, but as you know declined)
It was my understanding that he was supposed to get it, he wanted it, but the TV studio didn’t feel the west was ready for an Asian TV star.
But, I don’t speak with any authority on the matter, so I could be wrong.
SOULJAH…where are u getting your facts??? LOL…BRUCE LEE wanted to be the star in KUNG FU…but the producers chose DAVY CARADINE cause they wanted a whity presence. **** the haters!
Originally posted by Liokault
Am i the only guy here who never liked Bruce Lee films?
I could never stomach those stupid noises he always made. However, I do respect his contribution to the martial arts world and own two of his books - both excellent.
LOL. When people discuss Bruce Lee all they can discuss are his movies and his epic quest in the film industry.
When people discuss Royce Gracie they talk about his fights. Royce has come through when every one said he would fail. Everyone was sure that royce would be creamed by Dan Severn, an olympic wrestler who had an 80 pound wieght advantage. And during the fight it lasted a long time. So long that the payperview time slot was up and people didn’t get to see the end of the fight. I watched it on video tape. At around 15 minutes Royce put Severn in a triangle and Severn tapped. It was so dramatic. I got up out of my chair and started dancing and screaming. That is the only time a fight has ever been so dramatic that i jump up out of my chair. Thank you Royce for all those fights in the UFC and the challenge matches you video taped.
Royce is not invincible. he has been beaten. In fact Royce got beat by Rickson Gracie in under 30 seconds and he also lost to Sakuraba in 1 hour 30 minutes when he hurt his leg he had to give up. And he lost to Wallid Ismael in a BJJ tournament. But the thing is that these are fights. Not movies. So the very fact that Royce is fighting and building his reputation on fights makes him 1000 times more credible than bruce lee in my mind.
All hail Royce Gracie, father of the UFC, Pride, and every MMA tournamnet now in exsistance. And every BJJ school in the USA. And royce said “let there be light” and then there was light. then on the 7th UFC Royce rested, exhasted from what he had created.
Rolls!
Now,you consider him as a god!..From now on,you will not be able to do what you usually do while watching your Gracie tapes!..It is not right to spank the monkey in front of god!..:eek: :rolleyes:Show a little respect .
Actually, according to historical documents Royce Gracie rested on the 6th UFC but i’m not a seventh day adventist so i hold my Royce Gracie memorials on Sundays, not Saturday.
Counting in japanese for …!
[SIZE=4]ICH NI SAN SHI GO ROKU SHICHI HACHI KYU JYU…[/SIZE] :rolleyes:
i’m not japanese expert. I just spell stuff the way it sounds. But i dont’ know japanese. I’m just a wannabe japanese speaker.
Some day i will to japan for my special training. There is no other arcade like the japanese arcade. If you think streetfighter 2 turbo is good you havn’t seen anythign. Only in japan can you find the elite in fighting training video games and I will go and challenge their top gamers anjd train. Street fighter 2 turbo prepared me for Shaolin TIger but i will need much more for my next fight.
I always thought that a guy with such a big mouth could only be a PAC MAN expert!..
Don’t spank the monkey in front of your god!
Ralek - you do know that you’re getting real close to being a stalker, right?
I mean, it used to be funny and pathetic. Now it’s just creepy. See a mental health care professional. I know I’ve been needling you a lot lately, but I’m being serious now. You need help.
What are you talking about. I’ve been a stalker for years.
Do the Gracies know about you? Have you been served with restraining orders? It seems to me you’re still joking about this, but I’m being serious. Your fixation is extremely unhealthy, and potentially very dangerous. You could end up in jail.
‘‘Some day i will to japan for my special training. There is no other arcade like the japanese arcade. If you think streetfighter 2 turbo is good you havn’t seen anythign. Only in japan can you find the elite in fighting training video games and I will go and challenge their top gamers anjd train. Street fighter 2 turbo prepared me for Shaolin TIger but i will need much more for my next fight.’’
really, it just doesn’t get better than that.
i now know that one day you will be famous, for what i’m not sure but i do have some ideas, i would tell you but i can’t afford my computer to blow up again.
it will take a long time on your paper run though to be able to afford to go to japan though won’t it?
vts
Aw c’mon Ralek…stop it man…my sides are sore from laughter. 
I didn’t like his movies.
I don’t think his thoughts regarding cross-training were novel.
I don’t think he exhibited physically any of the “like water” philosophy he espoused verbally.
He was a good dancer though, and an important figure in the history of martial arts for how he affected their relationships with pop culture.
The bad thing though Ralek, is that no one cares that Royce fights… Bruce wanted to put Asians on a high level in American film. He wanted to break stereotypes, etc. Show that Asian heroes are just as good as anyone else. You don’t really do that in the Octagon, because not many people watch it. Everyone watches movies…
Bruce’s life wasn’t about fighting 
Who realistically thinks that? Bruce’s life was about establishing roles for Asians, and showing … well Asian pride in a way. That was his agenda… not fighting. I seriously think he could have cared less about competing or fighting in the streets… who watches that?
Small groups of people.
Ryu
In reply to Legend and Lice on the second page -
My ‘facts’ come from no1 less than david chow, who helped with the fight choreography for Kung fu and has written various books on Chin na and Kung fu philosophies.
OK although it is true that Caladine was chosen for his white skin, I read from a few sources that Bruce was offered the part before but he didnt see it taking him where he wanted (he’d be wrong subsequently) so he didnt take it, now it could be that bruce also knew that TV wasnt ready for a programme star who wasnt white…
These are just bits of info from kung fu sources, David Chow being the nearest to the ‘action’ and I would consider his info most reliable… now im sure youre facts come from much higher ground…right?