[QUOTE=Ozzy Dave;819406]Hi 5th Brother,
What sort of Bai he are you interested in, Fushou, Yong Chun or another region?[/QUOTE]
i Davo
While i have an interest in Hakka & Fukien Arts, including Bai He Quan;
It’s actually my friend that inspired the orginal topic.
She is doesn’t know enough to have an interest in a particular type yet, although the Yong Chun Bai He Quan does interest her as she did wing chun and supposedly yong chun white crane was the crane influence on wing chun …
But whatever style is available, which seems to be none… failing that she will probably look at Lung Ying she said.
Do you study Bai He?
Ron
when you say Fai Nhan I’ve assumed you actually meant Fai CHan of Bak Hok Pai; is that correct??
5th Brother,
Now you want to talk to me? (Just joking :)).
Actually no, Sifu Fai teaches what he calls Shaolin Baihe not Bak Hok Pai. He states that he was originally from Guanzhou. What he teaches is remarkably similar to Feeding Crane especially in the Elemental Hands. Hopes this helps in some small way.
Yong Chun Bai He is a considerably hard (External ) style of White Crane when compared to others.
All the best.
G’day 5th Brother,
Studied a little Yong Chun derived Bai He, initial training stresses tension training in the form of the tao lu Saam Chien / San Zhan and its variations. This Tao Lu has been written about extensively on this board in other threads by people way more experienced in Bai He than me, so I encourage you to have a search if you haven’t already.
I suppose it could be called hard Ron, but the internal / external dicotomy means different things in different regions and the Yong Chun variety of crane talks about internal cultivation as much as any other crane system.
If I was to hazard a guess as to the different emphasis between Yong Chun Bai He and other systems practised further north it would be that Yong Chun Bai he emphasises more “springy” power rather than the “whiping” power of the Fuzhou Crane systems. This is consistent with other systems practised in and around the same region as Yong Chun such as Wu Zhu Quan and Tai Zhu Quan.
A structural loading ability for your posture and Ma is important for springy power, its the tension training IMO that is the entry point to training for this to happen.
Wing Chun is IMO by and large similar in theory but greatly divergent in training methodology from Yong Chun Bai He.
Dave
[QUOTE=5thBrother;819447]Ron
when you say Fai Nhan I’ve assumed you actually meant Fai CHan of Bak Hok Pai; is that correct??[/QUOTE]
I think they’re talking about teachers in Australia and China. Chan Fei is a NY guy. Plus - they’re not talking about Tibetan WC. 
Are you a student of Sifu Chan Fei? PM me
Hi Lama-Pai Sifu
i’m not sure if Chan fEi is a different romanisation of Chan fAi but;
Chan Fai is a Bok Hok Pai teacher who learn from Chan Hak Fu. Chan Fai used to teach in New York.
shall reply the other posts tomorrow / over the weekend.. just home and dead tired and a busy fri-sat coming.
thanks for the replys Ron, Davo, Lama Pai Sifu
Yes, same person. I know him. My Sifu was friends with his Sifu as well. We used to go to his resturant in Flushing every Saturday from 91-93. I last saw him at my Sifu’s funeral a few years ago. I believe he is still teaching at the school on Canal Street? Are you a student of his??
[QUOTE=5thBrother;819366]
“I am under a Sifu from Fuzhou” - name? duration of training PHYSICALLY under him in Fuzhou?
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A fair question considering the way you have forwarded yourself. No politics here as I know little about southern crane. but a fairly direct question, an awnser would be interesting.
just a quick post
Lama Pai Sifu,
yeah canel street. I’m not a student of his.
“Ron, when you say Fai Nhan I’ve assumed you actually meant Fai CHan of Bak Hok Pai; is that correct??”
“Actually no, Sifu Fai teaches what he calls Shaolin Baihe not Bak Hok Pai. He states that he was originally from Guanzhou.”
I may of misunderstood this
Ron:
yeah still talking to you hehe… your answers haven’t been as evasive/cirlces as normal 
So some firm’ish answers to work with…
just to clarify: in connection to you Fai Nhan and Fai Chan (Chan Fai) are Different people or the same. Ie. was Nhan a typo?
Davo:
Thanks for the informative post
thanks
[QUOTE=Satori Science;819970]A fair question considering the way you have forwarded yourself. No politics here as I know little about southern crane. but a fairly direct question, an awnser would be interesting[/QUOTE]
…
To answer,
Nhan Chen Fai (full name as was given to me) is and has taught me his Shaolin Baihe tradition which I have stated is similar in many ways to the Shihequan style. He is from Guanzhou. Apart from that I can tell you very little as he is by all accounts a very private individual.
As for my Sifu from Fuzhou China, he is very well known and respected. He has stated that he is happy to be my Master, my adviser and accepting me into his school (His words not mine). He states that he is happy to “bring me into his school”. What matters is that we are on the White Crane path and are happy, regardless of the negativity of others. That is where it stands for whatever it may be worth. It is what it is. No big deal and neither am I, Just a seeker like so many others.
The White Crane Research Institute is the only school of its kind teaching the Calling White Crane of Great Master Ruan Dong of Fuzhou China. It is a Closed Door school and membership is only open to a dedicated and spirited few. If you are interested in applying for membership to the White Crane Research Institute and or in setting up a “Study Group” in your local area under the WCRI banner the please feel free to contact us: Ph: (02) 68452846
http://www.sportzblitz.com.au/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11228
You are qualified to teach this art, how long have you studied with Ruan Dong?
[QUOTE=hungmunhingdai;821354]
Are you qualified to teach this art?, how long have you studied with Ruan Dong?[/QUOTE]
Good Question
Ron thanks for the clarification on Nhan Chen Fai. But since he isn’t ming he quan … who & where (country) did u learn your ming he quan from ?
Sorry guys been so busy atm and also waiting on confirmation on some things before posting further
"Originally posted by Kotengu
Ruan Dong Fuzhou White Crane Australian Seminar 2008
Hi Guys
Could you guys ask & spread the word so i can get an idea on if there enough interest in having Fuzhou White Crane Master Ruan Dong coming to Australia for 2 weeks in mid-january in Sydney
Cheong Wai Por of Cho Gar Wing Chun and hopefully another teacher as well would be here.
Looking at his age, there will not be many opportunities for people outside China to meet and train with this great teacher.
This will be the first time Authentic Fuzhou White Crane will be taught in Australia and should put to rest any claims made by a certain person regarding Fuzhou White Crane once and for all - get the facts straight from Ruan Dong.
It’s short notice but if enough interest (so please let us know!) this may be possible to have him here enroute!
Thanks
DongSeminar@iinet.net.au"
Sorry for not replying soon as I have been busy with advanced security operative training.
Interesting Post. I heard from Great Master Ruan Dong today and he did not mention a seminar in Oz set down for January 2008 but I have emailed him for clarification.
To explain our relationship with Great Master, In 2005 a respected member of my school and good friend visited Great Master for training and to establish a relationship between that of ourselves within the White Crane Research Institute (WCR) I and Great Master. This was achieved and Great Master passed on a number of resources for us to study and use in our exploration of White Crane at the same time (November 6th 2005) Great Master agreed to becoming the Master/Technical Adviser and Consultant to the WCRI on White Crane and Wushu (This I have in writing signed by Great Master). I have several communications from Great Master stating we has and will accept us as members of his school.
Since that time we have been directing out efforts towards working on the resources given us and the training given to my member by Great Master. We are constant contact back and forth with Great Master and working on promoting his wonderful art and teachings in Australia. I have an article on Great Master to be published in an Australian Martial Arts Magazine in the near future.
This is where it currently stands.
What dismays me is the level of animosity and politics exhibited by the jealous nature of others whose sole aim is to tear down others simply because of their own negative political agendas. This has a great deal to say about the character of such persons.
We within the WCRI WILL NOT enter ourselves or Great Master in to such negativity and politics. Our sole aim is to promote White Crane and this then shall remain our main focus.
Thank you.
A scanned copy of the letter in which Great Master Ruan Dong of Fuzhou, Fujian, China agrees to serve as the Technical Adviser to the White Crane Research Institute. The letter contains Great Master Ruan Dong’s signature and personal seal, can be found here:
http://www.sportzblitz.net/Forum/topic.asp?whichpage=1&TOPIC_ID=11328
I have several emails on file from Great Master.Several past emails (On file) have stated he accepts us as his students. We have taken this to mean we will be accepted in his school but are not yet accepted as per the traditional way of things, my bad. Given the cultural differences some may have been misread but the latest dated Monday 3rd December 2007 states the following:
Master Ruan is happy to accept you and your student Maurice as his student. This means he intends to do so, he is happy to do it.
This basically says we are to be entered into his school at some stage in the future as is Great Master’s intention.
It is not our intention within the WCRI to mislead anyone . We may have made some mistakes given the cultural and written word differences but this is as it now stands and I hope that this clears up any mistakes or misconception which may have occurred. Please forgive me for any mistakes which may have arisen out of language and cultural barriers.
so you never met the man.
Kotengu Wrote:
Hey man
i still cant post on KFO for some reason..
can you post this for me. I think its speaks for itself
thanks Bro
Kot.
http://www.sportzblitz.com.au/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11328
quote]Originally posted by Kotengu
[br][b]Ok Enough of this…
Here is a CLASSIC EXAMPLE … fresh
like i said Ron took down his website 5pm’ish
Website comes back some hours later
oh yes but with some fine EDITING .. suprise suprise
can we say BUSTED!!
BEFORE
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2278/2085733599_d9c6aff143.jpg?v=0
and
Wahlaa (?spell)
AFTER (sorry u didn’t delete fast enough …)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/21522517@N07/2085733655/
BUSTED CUSTARD!!
Ho Ho Ho~~
EDIT:
Well that didn’t work out
please go here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/21522517@N07/
click on the thumbnails and then “all sizes” to enlarge again
sadly ron started deleting like crazy as i was reading it so i tryed to save as much as i could unforetunately not the whole site though…
give a man enough rope and …
food and sleep!! so much for my day off >_<
DongSeminar@iinet.net.au
contact about proposed Ruan Dong’s White Crane Seminars 2008
any help from the Sydney/Aust. Chinese Martial Arts Community greatly appreciated
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[/quote
Question on Yang Jwing Ming’s shaolin white crane book
Hi.
Does anyone have a copy of Yang Jwing Ming’s shaolin white crane book handy?
I have a couple of quick questions someone with a copy maybe be able to answer for me.
thanks!