Is there a "Mantis Sliding in the Mud" form?

Hi all,
Great thanks to all who came. The training was long, but the collective energy pushed us thru right to the end.
It was a pleasure to deal with a large group of a single minded determination to master everything in a single weekend.

" He also taught everyone “strike four gates”. "

This was taught to me by Mantis 108. IMHO, one of the simplest and yet most important aspects of mantis.

"This SFG is a very good tool for improving footwork and the ability to strike with power from an angle you normally think would not contain power. I learned alot about this subject from this little exercise. "

It is more than a tool. This type of footwork shows up repeatedly in the mantis that I teach. It is an essential aspect of how to move the body within the Mantis style. I regret not having the time and chance to go into details of how it is used to apply various methods of deceptive striking.

"Kevin mentioned that we were probably only going to be able to learn 9 out of the 18, I can see why now. "

On the bright side, learning the last nine should be easier than the first nine.

" Each technique was first taught as a “line drill”, then after doing these many times over a very long distance, we paired off with a partner. "

This is my own addition. Normally, the student would be well acquanted with all these techniques in the forms and no line drills would be taught.

But, this method of training individual techniues is valid. Many times I would see my elder, alone under the Banyon tree, working a technique over and over.

"We also repeated the line drills with Kevin calling out, we had to respond to the name of the essential. "

I started this, but realizing that 2 days is too short to learn moves and chinese words or their abstract english equivelents is too much I stopped. Later you must call out the terms and have the students do the moves for the partner practice.

“I see the importance and necessity of “knowing” the types of strikes needed in the initial engagement.”

Yes, I agree. In my own observations I have noticed that the winner of fights is usually the guy who got the good strike right off the bat.(Not as often in tourny though).

" These really helped me with my entering the engagement aswell. Maybe with Osos help and Kevins permission we could put up some clips."

Send me some stuff, I’ll edit and post.

“Also, the gathering took place on top of a civil war fort where many battles were fought. It was a very cool place, up high, secluded and beautiful. Kind of added to the ambiance… thanks Justin for finding this spot.”

Now, my wife wants to move to Tenn.

Kevin

I haven’t looked at my vid yet…I just have the first hour of the last session Sunday morning.

ok…so are we going to be in a bidding war to get Shibo to move to Nashville or Asheville? :wink:

cuz, he didn’t get to see anything cool in February…I can beat the fort. :smiley:

throwing in the towel…

You are so right Matt, no way Nashville can compare to Asheville! Shibo needs to see your area for sure… and not the winter time.

I was just kidding mainly…maybe we can do it old school way…you build him a house there and I’ll build him one here…he can do winters there and summers here…

Hippie!

That’s a bold statement there Oso, coming from a man living Asheville, who more often than not when I see is bare foot… Is not there some sort of Dredloc clause for living there? :stuck_out_tongue:

"I started this, but realizing that 2 days is too short to learn moves and chinese words or their abstract english equivelents is too much I stopped. Later you must call out the terms and have the students do the moves for the partner practice. "

I see the value in this… I remember watching Da Shifu Shr teaching a form to Shiye John, he would call out the next move by naming the technic and Shiye would execute… I feel this helps to keep the mind limber and keep things seperate… To help one seperate from one thing to the next, not to say to put boudaries or an end point to something, but to see when an opportunity manifests and dissolves, to keep aggressive… Plus, learning the Chinese would help provide a more well rounded understanding of the concept of the app…

Anyhow, I should get back to freting guitars… Hope that was’nt too spacey for you there Oso… :stuck_out_tongue: :cool:

~Be well

lol…actually, Eric hit the nail on the head when he called me Huck Finn when we were running back down the hill saturday. give me my druthers and ahd be in shorts on the river day after day

see, I actully feel like I ‘get it’ better than these wanna be hippies and peaceniks in this town…again, it’s the hypocrisy of their actions that gets to me most.

Case in point the kids that own this building I’m moving out of…they want to keep the historic iron windows that create a much higher cost of heating and cooling…thereby burning more fuel to create electricity…but, anyways…

and don’t go thinking you can out ‘spacey’ me you young whippersnapper:mad:

I was drinking tea and speculating about the lives of the people on the other side of a mirror when you were just a suckling at your mama’s teat. :stuck_out_tongue:

I done figured the answer out already, that’s all. no need for speculation. :wink:

I have been so happy being around all of the Pong Lai guys since I have started my training almost a year ago. What a group of great people. I enjoyed this seminar as much as the last. So far everything I have learned I have loved. Its nice to hit and be hit im hard headed so I think thats what I need to have things make since. I always enjoy seeing 18 elders and I think Kevin’s seminars are something special. It was nice to see Oso and his crew again. I feel like a rookie around all you Pong Lai veterans maybe if you beat me enough I will learn something one day. See you this Saturday Yu Shan.

Good to see you again, bro.

We need to get together next time for some one on one.

I can pass on a few ‘Fat Boyz’ ™ tips for the BBMA (Big Beautiful Martial Artist) to ya. From personal experience, you know. :wink:

Tip #1: Wait for 'em.

If they really want to kick your ass…they’ll come to you. Then you can show them why Mohammed really shouldn’t have gone to the mountain. :smiley: