i noticed a site about iron pam by a guy named james lacey. could any one tell me if he is for real as well as his system 18 daoists palms ?
I would beware…
RE Lacy
I’ve looked at some of Lacy’s clips and viewed a couple of videos as well. His stuff is dreadful. Whatever you do DO NOT purchase any of the “18 Daoist White Eyebrow”. It’s beyond bad. As a Pak Mei student it really put’s me off when I see crap like that being passed off as Pak Mei (White Eyebrow). On the first page of his site it says:
"This 18 Daoist Palms’ White Eyebrow has nothing to do with other systems of White Eyebrow. "
This statement says it all and he knows it is only the name he’s ripping off.
“The fifteen training forms my former teacher and Vince helped film at my house will be forthcoming. When complete there will be about 26 of these rare 18 Daoist Palms’ White Eyebrow Forms.”
He’s referring to Vince Peppers. I hadn’t seen any of Peppers ‘White Eyebrow’ until recently when I saw a clip posted on Putfile. It was so bad it was beond description.
DON’T WASTE YOUR MONEY!!! Just so you know, I’m not a Bak Fu Pai, anti-Lacy zealot from the Doo Wai clan and have no association with any of them. I just really dislike scam artists that try to rip people off.
Beware of Lacy.
On the frontpage of his
This might be a question for hsk…
Is this James lacey of any relation to the laceys who do CLF???
I might have confused them…
James Patrick Lacy is no relation to the Lacey Clan who teach Buk Sing Choy Lei Faht.
Lacy is an ex-con who knows nothing.
leave it at that.
DD,
How do you REALLY feel???
I saw a video of Lacy on his website of him doing his precious coconut break.
He first taped this coconut to a tree. He wacked it really hard with his elbow and the coconut fell and rolled under his car. He went down under the car and got it, and stuck it up on the tree again. Once again he wacked it with his elbow, and ripped all the skin off and was bleeding! So he switched arms. After striking it a couple times with his left elbow the coconut broke and he looked so proud of himself most likely thinking, “I am soooo powerful”!
Find that clip if you can because its… Im at a loss for a discriptive word.
Keilun
Those Coconuts are **** hard to break too!
how about totally odiferous excrementally lame?
if you look on the videos reloaded page (about p19) I posted a demo of the ‘hands of a thousand bells’ by the british columbia representative of the style.
just excuse the enthusiasm - when I first saw it I thought it was impressive. Then I realised it was bollacks. I learn’t to put out a candel in less than half an hour, from double the distance, barearmed, and a lot less movement.
so yea
waste of time if you ask me
craig
Fan Woo,
Stick to your own training as ANYTHING lacy touches rots and falls off. He is one of many laughing stocks in the MA community.
…so what about … is it Brian Gray ? I think that’s another “prominent” iron palm type guy isn’t it ?
Howdy
I saw the videos of Lacey …Who knows… every morning I smasch ananas (pineable with my fist)I feel better all my devil chi go on it …but i dont eat it …I saw the videos of Doo Wai who know thats seem to be pak mei…the forms…
buyt…
oh God, it hurt my eyes. The Nar Jar, and Monkey form were priceless.
It truly saddens me to think that people are viewing these and then actually going out and buying the tapes afterwards. These poor, lost souls. Somebody help them.
of course not me.
Somebody else.
I don’t want these people anywhere near me.
There’s a limit to my compassion.
Sometimes all it takes is good marketing…but I think maybe he has some subliminal advertising or something…how else would he get people to buy that?
If I knew someone that owned it, I wouldnt even pay $1 to make a duplicate…
I would however pay $10 to get some gasoline and set it on fire!:eek:
RE more bad clips
Check out the clips on the main page:
If you scroll down you’ll see:
"Learn the rare 18 Daoist Palms’ White Eyebrow in a (2) CD series designed to play on the computer utilizing Windows Media Player 9 or 10. The first CD deals with the history, philosophy,
principles, footwork, ging transfer, (8) authentic flexibility exercises, (2) authentic qigong as well as an explanation of finer points and
instructions on how the material on CD 2 should be followed to get best results in learning the (9) first core solo fighting forms.
My 13 year tested home study student Lohon Golden Dragon Elder Brother Shi Fu Larry Matheny thoroughly explains each
move and shows close ups and explains finer points. Notice we offer 3 free clips that are taken from the series that show the far away view only of forms 2, 4 and 8 of the 9 core forms which are as follows:
Form 1 - Gic Bow Kuen
Form 2 - 18 Devils’ Claw - View Clip
Form 3 - Eagles’ Claw Chinese 10 Hook Attack Fist
Form 4 - Dragon’s Shadow / Devil’s Fist - View Clip
Form 5 - 18 Devils’ Bridge
Form 6 - Fae Sat Kuen
Form 7 - Tin Gong Kuen
Form 8 - Long Ying Kuen - View Clip
Form 9 - Sap Jee Kuen"
Unbelievable. Without a doubt some of the worst martial arts clips ever recorded.
Some are not active. If you want to see “Gic Bow Kuen” check out this link:
http://www.ironpalm.com/Form1.wmv
Simply a disaster. They should be throttled for using the name “White Eyebrow” in the same sentence as that garbage.
RE more bad clips
Check out the clips on the main page:
If you scroll down you’ll see:
"Learn the rare 18 Daoist Palms’ White Eyebrow in a (2) CD series designed to play on the computer utilizing Windows Media Player 9 or 10. The first CD deals with the history, philosophy,
principles, footwork, ging transfer, (8) authentic flexibility exercises, (2) authentic qigong as well as an explanation of finer points and
instructions on how the material on CD 2 should be followed to get best results in learning the (9) first core solo fighting forms.
My 13 year tested home study student Lohon Golden Dragon Elder Brother Shi Fu Larry Matheny thoroughly explains each
move and shows close ups and explains finer points. Notice we offer 3 free clips that are taken from the series that show the far away view only of forms 2, 4 and 8 of the 9 core forms which are as follows:
Form 1 - Gic Bow Kuen
Form 2 - 18 Devils’ Claw - View Clip
Form 3 - Eagles’ Claw Chinese 10 Hook Attack Fist
Form 4 - Dragon’s Shadow / Devil’s Fist - View Clip
Form 5 - 18 Devils’ Bridge
Form 6 - Fae Sat Kuen
Form 7 - Tin Gong Kuen
Form 8 - Long Ying Kuen - View Clip
Form 9 - Sap Jee Kuen"
Unbelievable. Without a doubt some of the worst martial arts clips ever recorded.
Some are not active. If you want to see “Gic Bow Kuen” check out this link:
http://www.ironpalm.com/Form1.wmv
Simply a disaster. They should be throttled for using the name “White Eyebrow” in the same sentence as that garbage.
ive seen worse.
those were home study guys after all.
And it’s only forms, which don’t reveal much other than…well, a form.
as for lacey, he’s got some controversy surrounding him…as you can see here. 
You may as well sit on the couch while doing those forms
Funny you should mention that. As part of a trade I made once with another forum member here, I got a copy of some Lacey stuff. A lot of it had to do with Iron Palm, and he taught from his couch. He didn’t bother to edit the tape, so the parts with him getting up to turn the camera on/off were left in there, and his cat makes several walk-on cameo appearances in the “film.” It was beyond unwatchable. Cr@ptacular.