iron palm- the internal aspect

V,

Yeah I watch some show and it was awesome, and it showed these secrets, and it was like so cool and awesome.

PLEEEASSSEEE..

V, you out of high school yet?

didnt think so.

In Boston,

Dale

Fight school… er…and

By measuring and stating how cool the stuff was in fight school…you have truely risen to your level of incompetance.

About Meditation

Meditation should occur before and after Iron Palm training. The before meditation that I do is a very common “circling of the Chi”.

Standing with your feet shoulder width apart, insert your right thumb into your navel, place your left thumb in the middle of your right palm. Let your hands cross.
Inhale and visualize your chi moving from your navel, down around your “tant”, up you back, to the top of your head. Exhale visualizing that it’s going down your face, throat, chest, ect…This is all done in a continuous breath, slow and controlled.
This beginning meditation is done for 5 to 6 minutes.

Iron Palm training teaches you to relax. Through relaxation big things happen.

Have you ever tried to “kill” a baseball? What generally happens is you hit a little grounder back to the pitcher. Ever swing nice and easy, and the ball goes over the outfielders head? This is smooth and flowing, this is what you can gain through “proper” Iron Palm training.

I think any Iron Palm training that hits hard, you might as well get involved in Karate and hit a Makarawri Board.

Softness always overcomes hardness.

Hope this helps,
Steve

What does sticking your thumb in your navel do, what’s a “tant”, and why do I feel like I’m walking into the punch-line of a dirty joke?

No Punch Line

The “tant” is the space between your arse and your b-alls. That’s why it’s called the “tant”. Tant your ass, tant your balls.

The navel is the center of energy. I know that I will get alot of arguments about this…but here goes. Many people believe that the “tan tien” is the center of energy, located below the belly button. This spot is a muscle that is exercised when practising Iron Palm, to deliver the chi to the striking area.

The navel is where life begins. It’s where you received all of your nutrients. It should be your center of focus when you meditate. This is where your, “chi”, “life-force”, whatever anyone wants to call it, account is located.

Chi, is made up from semen, breath, and saliva.

I don’t know how much to talk about here, it’s kind of strange, this forum. I like it, but, there is a thread about Chinese Strength Training, but everyone is talking about weight lifting on this thread, it’s funny. They should have name it, “weight training for the martial artist”, or something like that.

Steve

They were just beginners but in time this sort of training will make them masters.

Masters hunh?

Like your sifu promised you would be after you gave him money and did all this cool training?

You have no idea what it is to eat bitter and train like you mean it.

You are a child who hides, and talks like a toddler.

I’m here whenever you want to match wits or knowledge, son. Don’t you get it, I’m calling you out.

I know you will not take this up as you know nothing and have nothing.

In Boston,

Dale Dugas

A true master would not have to call names. A true master will ask questions that enlighten. great way to stop a confrontation as your opponent would ponder instead of pounding you to a pulp.

Steve, you offer some interesting information. I asked about your muscle restructure tape on your website’s forum, but no one answered. You credit the creation of the routine to Damo. He did create the Yi Jin Ching “Muscle/Tendon Change”. Are they the same thing?

I’ll post on the NWW forum, as we are talking about Iron Palm here.

Steve

Guys,

Was hoping we could get back on topic; as an iron palm practicioner of about a year, I find this topic very interesting. When I learned my iron palm techniques, a very small emphasis was placed on the before and after qigong, while most went towards relaxation and striking technique, massaging, etc. I thoroughly trust the source of my information but unfortunately that source is not available anymore. I tend to think that addidng qigong as this thread initially was stating, is a good idea. Ive started to do so in small amounts and think the results are, atleast neutral.

At any rate, Id like to hear a continued discussion about it from those with many years of experience, as I rather enjoy doing my iron palm training but want to maintain the utmost of safety and utilization of my time spent.

Thanks in advance :wink:

The breathing meditation done before and after, I feel, IMO, is almost as important as the striking. One more thing that we do before the beginning meditation is “chi balancing”.
I just finished filming some brick breaking, the breaks will be online by the end of the week. Look for them, the breaks are alot different.

Steve

I’ve been training Iron skills for over ten years. In the early stages I too doubted the efficacy of Chi-Kung, since I couldn’t see what it possibly had to do with hitting. Nowadays I spend much more time training my strikes with Chi-Kung than I do hitting things. All of the strongest martial artists I know do some sort of Chi exercises. At this point I believe that more than protecting the body, Chi-Kung somehow serves to develop power for the more advanced levels of training. In other words, if you don’t do your Chi-Kung, eventually your progress will grind to a halt. You’ll be stuck at the intermediate level forever.

Very well said, Samurai Jack.

I say it all of the time, “you will never reach the higher levels in the martial arts without it”. Think about all of the different ways to meditate, there are so many. I look at meditaion like a “skeleton key”, it will unlock many doors.

Steve

PD,

you basically need to start to open the pathways from your Dantian to your Laogong points in the palms. Many people will have different ways. It doesnt really matter the way you do it except that it works for you.

I was taught to use a combination of visualization along with lots of standing qi gong to get the energy moving.

The hitting of the bag helps to pull the qi to the hands along with the medicine which helps to heal your hand from whacking it on some bag full of hard medium.

To sum it up its mircrocomsmic orbit added to a hand conditioning routine with a medicinal component. There are also internal jows you can use to help make sure your not having any blocks.

Fried food, alcohol, and excessive orgasm will deplete your reserve which is what is moving when your training.

Feel free to email me offforum at Jooklumpai@hotmail.com if you have more questions. You can also come visit the group at Sifu Hamps website as well. He is my Si-hing under GM Gene Chicoine.

Walking my circle,

Dale Dugas

watch fight school!!! gret iron palm training technique. they strike their hands on ice.