Trey a google search, Hung Gar is a really popular and well known style now a days. There are plenty of sites with information, video, yada yada yada, you name it, it’s out there.
i want to know if you have some info about lam fook sing and tit kiu sam original hung gar ( village hung gar i guess ) and specially shaolin monk kwok yin .
You might ask some of the others on the forum here. I haven’t really done much in Hung Gar research in years. I did some Taiwan Hung Men stuff in our last few issues (May June 2003 & Jul Aug 2003) but not much with Mainland Hung Gar in a while. Sorry.
Also, sifu is coming out with an original book (yeah, it’s been almost done for a while) Looks like the presale link is taken off the site but it will come soon.
Sorry there, according to Ho Lap Tin is not correct. Even Tang Fung is Lam Sai Wing student together with at Lok Sin Kek Yuen, famous for the history? Perhaps after to follow Wong Fai Hung learns the medicine only. Every body knows this!
What you have posted is incorrect. My Sigung’s book states that Tang Fung learned originally under Lam Sai Wing and later went to study under Wong Fei Hung. Not only does it states that he learned the Osteopathy, he also learned Hung’s Pugilism from him.
It’s unfortunate that someone who does not represent Tang Fung lineage believes that he knows much about it. This is like saying I know all about you lineage yet I haven’t a clue to which branch you belong.
It is a fact that Tang Fung learned some gung fu from Lam Sai Wing, it is also a fact that he was with Lam Sai Wing during his the Luk Sin incident. However, you are sadly mistaking to believe that Tang Fung only learned medicine under Wong Fei Hung.
It was Wong who taught Tang Fong the advance methods of Hung Ga not Lam Sai Wing.
Not only does my sigung mention this in his book Lau Sing Kuen, he also mention it in his book on Lung Fu San (Hung Ga Pugilism) as well as his first book on Hung Ga San Sau.
Each of these books stated he learned Hung pugilism under Lam Sai Wing and later from Wong Fei Hung. I couldn’t see the close relationship between Mok Gwai Lan and Tang Fong if he was not a sup yut dai Gee under Wong Fei Hung.
HuangKaiVun,
Regarding whether or not Lau Sing Kuen is not a Hung Ga set. This is like saying Butterfly Palms, Lau Ga Kuen, Arrow Fist and other forms are not hung ga. This is far from the truth, we know that each branch has their on flavor and with this its on representation of what Hung ga is. All the techniques in Lau Sing Kuen come directly from techniques found in other Hung Ga forms. It’s hard to know or understand this if you don’t actually learn the form from someone who is qualified to teach it.
Fu Hok has now been translated and can still be bought for a lowered price at http://www.kungfulibrary.com/
They also have the three books on CD.
The quality of the translation is hard to judge, but compared to the books at quandoman they look good and are half the price.
Also at quandoman they translated the Fu Hok and Tit Sin books from Leung Daat, and not the original work. Although their fourth translated book “Lam Sai Wing’s Workout Manual” is of great interest.
Problem with both is that they use Mandarin instead of Cantonese terms for Hung Gar techniques.
Good to hear that Kwong Wing Lam’s book will be out soon. Maybe it will make a nice Christmas present
Thanks for pointing out the translation of Fu-Hok is done. At the time I posted, it wasn’t but it is now. I support all translations and think folks should get as many as they can afford. Everyone has a different way of expressing chinese in English. The emphasis can be enlightening. Also, having done some minor translations, the work that goes into it is not even covered by the sales.
As for Sifu’s book. It should be around by Christmas. I just spoke to the editor today. They are looking at October now.
With all the build up, I hope the hung gar community will enjoy it. I believe it will be one of the few books that isn’t based around a form.
And to Je Lei Sifu, Your lineage is just that. Yours. Don’t let outsiders tell you differently. (not that you would) Just giving my support.
In Mok Gwai Lam lineage Dang Fong is not seen as a student of Wong Fei Hung.
He came with Lam Sai Wing, then learned medicine and maybe a little bit kung fu.
I also spoke with Chiu Chi Ling once in Hong Kong and he said Ho Lap Tin told him all the kung fu came from Lam Sai Wing. Well, you can ask him.
But because maybe Ho Lap Tin tell different to his own students, they have to use that.
Actually is not that important, Dang Fong maybe learned from many persons (so if other people say he learned from Lam Sai Wing they are not wrong either), just as Lam Sai Wing learned from many.