Hung Gar

if you go here, you will find a few http://www.mlsd66.ca/~dforbes/

also http://www.kungfulibrary.com is pretty good.

and www.fuhok.com

and

www.tigercrane.com

hungkuen.net is now siulaminfo.com

and there is

http://www.hunggarkungfu.com/

Trey a google search, Hung Gar is a really popular and well known style now a days. There are plenty of sites with information, video, yada yada yada, you name it, it’s out there.

cheers

gene ching hung gar question

hello gene

i want to know if you have some info about lam fook sing and tit kiu sam original hung gar ( village hung gar i guess ) and specially shaolin monk kwok yin .

thank you

Afriad I can’t help you that much here

You might ask some of the others on the forum here. I haven’t really done much in Hung Gar research in years. I did some Taiwan Hung Men stuff in our last few issues (May June 2003 & Jul Aug 2003) but not much with Mainland Hung Gar in a while. Sorry.

Hung Gar Books?

I wondered if there are any interesting Hung Gar books in English?

I have a fairly old book on the Hung Gar Tiger/Crane form by Bucksam Kong, which is quite good (though I’m not a hung gar practitioner).

go here to get Lam Sai Wing’s Three published books on Gung Gi Fook Foo, Fu Hok and Tid sen Kuen in english.

I also have Kong’s book and even a few others, but the ones from the source will always be the best.

cheers

The above link does not have Fu Hok translated (yet)

You can also get translations for the 3 books + the training manual at http://www.quandoman.com/videos.htm

Look at the bottom.

Also, sifu is coming out with an original book (yeah, it’s been almost done for a while) Looks like the presale link is taken off the site but it will come soon.

There are also advertised www.hunnga.net, however I dont know if the same.

A guy named sifu Jamaal al bakkar (not sure of spelling) has some intersting hung gar books I own one and have looked through a few.

jun_erh

is that the guy from the movie tiger claws with cynthia rothrock?

or was that someone else?

cheers

Check out Ho Lap Tin’s “The Shooting Star Boxing of Hung Pugilism”.

Ho Lap Tin was a direct disciple of Tang Fung, who in turn studied directly under Wong Fei Hung.

The set presented in the book isn’t a Hung Ga set per se, but Ho does depict his entire set (which he made up himself).

More interestingly, Ho has presented applications to all of the moves. All of them are geared toward defending against strikers.

Interesting book, Ho Lap Tin. Chinese / English too.
Mistake, though, Tang Fung learned followed Lam Sai Wing, not Wong Fai Hung.

it was my understanding that Tang Fung’s sifu WAS in fact WFH, and NOT LSW.

Sorry there, according to Ho Lap Tin is not correct. Even Tang Fung is Lam Sai Wing student together with at Lok Sin Kek Yuen, famous for the history? Perhaps after to follow Wong Fai Hung learns the medicine only. Every body knows this!

Such . . . sob . . . common knowledge . . .

just kidding.

That’s not what I heard or experienced, having trained under both systems for a while.

if everybody knew it , it most likely would not be contested… however, it is.

i’m not saying Tang Fung didn’t learn from LSW, just that it was my understanding that the Tang Fung lineage is traced to WFH.

of course, I suppose unless we are Tang Fung or WFH or LSW themselves, we don’t really know and we have to take people’s word for it.

i’m going to take my sifu and sigung’s word for it…

Posting of incorrect info.

SiJiHao,

What you have posted is incorrect. My Sigung’s book states that Tang Fung learned originally under Lam Sai Wing and later went to study under Wong Fei Hung. Not only does it states that he learned the Osteopathy, he also learned Hung’s Pugilism from him.

It’s unfortunate that someone who does not represent Tang Fung lineage believes that he knows much about it. This is like saying I know all about you lineage yet I haven’t a clue to which branch you belong.

It is a fact that Tang Fung learned some gung fu from Lam Sai Wing, it is also a fact that he was with Lam Sai Wing during his the Luk Sin incident. However, you are sadly mistaking to believe that Tang Fung only learned medicine under Wong Fei Hung.

It was Wong who taught Tang Fong the advance methods of Hung Ga not Lam Sai Wing.

Not only does my sigung mention this in his book Lau Sing Kuen, he also mention it in his book on Lung Fu San (Hung Ga Pugilism) as well as his first book on Hung Ga San Sau.

Each of these books stated he learned Hung pugilism under Lam Sai Wing and later from Wong Fei Hung. I couldn’t see the close relationship between Mok Gwai Lan and Tang Fong if he was not a sup yut dai Gee under Wong Fei Hung.

HuangKaiVun,

Regarding whether or not Lau Sing Kuen is not a Hung Ga set. This is like saying Butterfly Palms, Lau Ga Kuen, Arrow Fist and other forms are not hung ga. This is far from the truth, we know that each branch has their on flavor and with this its on representation of what Hung ga is. All the techniques in Lau Sing Kuen come directly from techniques found in other Hung Ga forms. It’s hard to know or understand this if you don’t actually learn the form from someone who is qualified to teach it.

Peace

Je Lei Sifu.

Hasayfu,

Fu Hok has now been translated and can still be bought for a lowered price at http://www.kungfulibrary.com/
They also have the three books on CD.
The quality of the translation is hard to judge, but compared to the books at quandoman they look good and are half the price.
Also at quandoman they translated the Fu Hok and Tit Sin books from Leung Daat, and not the original work. Although their fourth translated book “Lam Sai Wing’s Workout Manual” is of great interest.
Problem with both is that they use Mandarin instead of Cantonese terms for Hung Gar techniques.

Good to hear that Kwong Wing Lam’s book will be out soon. Maybe it will make a nice Christmas present :smiley:

Je Lei Sifu and GreyMystik,

Correct. Better belief the words of your Sigung.

corrected

South Paw,

Thanks for pointing out the translation of Fu-Hok is done. At the time I posted, it wasn’t but it is now. I support all translations and think folks should get as many as they can afford. Everyone has a different way of expressing chinese in English. The emphasis can be enlightening. Also, having done some minor translations, the work that goes into it is not even covered by the sales.

As for Sifu’s book. It should be around by Christmas. I just spoke to the editor today. They are looking at October now.

With all the build up, I hope the hung gar community will enjoy it. I believe it will be one of the few books that isn’t based around a form.

And to Je Lei Sifu, Your lineage is just that. Yours. Don’t let outsiders tell you differently. (not that you would) Just giving my support.

In Mok Gwai Lam lineage Dang Fong is not seen as a student of Wong Fei Hung.
He came with Lam Sai Wing, then learned medicine and maybe a little bit kung fu.

I also spoke with Chiu Chi Ling once in Hong Kong and he said Ho Lap Tin told him all the kung fu came from Lam Sai Wing. Well, you can ask him.

But because maybe Ho Lap Tin tell different to his own students, they have to use that.
Actually is not that important, Dang Fong maybe learned from many persons (so if other people say he learned from Lam Sai Wing they are not wrong either), just as Lam Sai Wing learned from many.