hsing yi (maybe with wing chun?)

hey everyone, i’d just like to know a little more about hsing yi.

i was wondering if any of you have trained in wing chun and now hsing yi. do you think it would be a bad idea to train in hsing yi and wing chun?

to any of you who do hsing yi but don’t know much about wing chun… i’ll try to help out a little… Wing chun is a southern style and uses hands more than feet. the kicks are low- usually below the waist. strikes are straightforward. there is no low horse stance and the main source of power is from the ground. it’s external- there’s only one small part of the first form that has a little chi gung in there… maybe that’s still a little too vague sorry.

please give me any imput. thanks.

about wing chun

you are wrong.Wc does have a low horse stance.just not taught till you have exp.in the system.WC is very internal infact the only way you can ever be good in Wc is if you can understand its internal side.Although i hate to call things internal and external because at their highest lvls all martial arts are a blend of the 2 concepts.

wing chun when fighting? or you mean when doing the dragon pole, arrow punching, etc?

sorry if i forgot to neglect that part.

Wing chun

I have a friend with over 15 yrs of experience in Wing Chun. I myself about the same in Xingyiquan.
We have discussed the difference between them in depth. They are simular but yet they are not. Both are great systems for self defense and health.

I think you would benifit greatly by practicing both.

Paul
Michigan

Sorry to disagree, but …

Let me be a dissenting voice here. I trained in wing chun several years ago, and now I train in a type of hsing-i. The two are utterly different in the way in which they train your body to generate power.

Wing chun relies upon a very still torso to free the arms to move quickly. Hsing-i trains a kind of whole-body motion. Therefore, I can’t see how cross-training in the two styles could possibly be beneficial.

That said, it’s always a good thing to keep in touch with your kung fu brothers, and to maintain a healthy respect for all legitimate schools. So it might be a very good thing to acquaint yourself with the principles of any number of other styles, not least of them hsing-i.
c

From what I’ve seen, Hsing Yi has a very different power generation method than Wing Chun.

If it were up to ME, I’d sample both styles and pick one of them to train to completion.

By then, I probably would feel no need to train the other.

Your right

Your both right! I didn’t take the power issue into account when I wrote the above statments.

I was thinking more of the simularities of Wing Chun’s chain punching and Beng Quan or Biu Tze and Chi Hsing applications.

You have to admit ther are simularities in these.

paul
michigan

Yes, there’s certainly some similarities between wing chun and hsing-i. It may even be possible to borrow strategies between styles, or to adapt some techniques to the basic patterns of each style.

I think it’s really healthy for martial artists to familiarise themselves with other schools, for these reasons, and a whole lot of others that you can easily work out.

Good luck!o

I have been thinking about the similarities as well, though apparently there is a lot of differences, too.

The body mechanics for the basic stances seem quite similar though? The footwork seems (my knowledge of Hsing I in this department is cursory) similar.

The power generation seems to be where most people say they differ the most, even though both rely on proper (and similar) body mechanics? I’d like to hear someone with a bit more experience expand on this.

i don’t see any relation between wing chun and xingyi at all.
even the basics are totally different and as for beng fist and chain punch, the dynamics, power, usage etc is totally different.

as to basic ma, again even if you just look at the movement/mechanics of the usage of the elements, and not even go into animals (as some xing yi do not have animals), it is totally different again.

two differing arts, with different philosophies and movment