How often you updated your curriculum?

Kudos David, but we all know you been doing this for the past 30; never standing still- just going forward.

[QUOTE=lkfmdc;1126058]CONSTANTLY updating (twice on Wednesdays!)

Keep moving, keep evolving[/QUOTE]

You big showoff, with your fancy shmancy insane clown posse kickboxing knuckleheaded techniques!

insane killer clown boxing from outerspace? thats my style too!

[QUOTE=Lucas;1126064]insane killer clown boxing from outerspace? thats my style too![/QUOTE]

The guy who did the special effects for Killer Clowns From Outer Space went to my high school. A film class teacher at the school had him come in and talk to us.

This is probably not information I should share.

are you the inspiration for drinking blood through swirly straws out of cotton candy cacoons?

[QUOTE=Lucas;1126066]are you the inspiration for drinking blood through swirly straws out of cotton candy cacoons?[/QUOTE]

I am disturbed not only by your knowledge of that movie, but by the fact that I know exactly what you’re talking about.

And yes.

Figured. So how bout that clown with the big knockers then, thats your fault too right? I would totally sell her ice cream.

[QUOTE=Taixuquan99;1126040]How so?
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Pretty much anyone can train martial arts. Most licensed professions require at least a Master’s degree and often a Ph.D. The standards are a good bit more rigorous for an academic profession. Usually someone with a Ph.D. has 8 to 10 years of concentrated study and work experience along the way. Moreover, there are cut standards along the way and licensing procedures in each state. Nobody takes away some one’s black belt because they hit their wife or got their second DUI.

[QUOTE=Mulong;1126048]Also, how much a curriculum is updated really has to do partly with how realistic it was in the first place.

HumbleWCGuy, maybe I didn’t express myself correctly in the beginning of the post; however, fighting has involved greatly from a hundred years ago; therefore, the needs have changed and our understanding of our body has also; don’t you think? [/QUOTE]

People still have two hands and two feat right?

[QUOTE=Taixuquan99;1126051]In response to this, and not picking on you, just arguing points.

Traditional kung fu open hand and weapons was trained certain ways, but it always included people whose experience included using those methods as gangsters, bodyguards, police, soldiers, etc. Using those weapons, those techniques, etc.

That cannot happen in the modern age. Even if working as a bodyguard, the gun changes the entire approach, and regardless, most traditional weapons are right out as far as options.

So that, to not replace this with something is to fail to be traditional. Form was never intended to suffice in weapons or empty hand, it’s the vocabulary and principles, but it does not have the context of an opponent. Because a lot of students won’t train outside the training hall, if you don’t do a little bit in each class, they look like crap when you go back to it.

A swordsman trains their sword techniques in relation to an attacker every time they train.

A fighter trains their moves on another fighter every time they train.

Modern traditional schools train throws once in a while, weapons once in a while, and generally, in very static ways. This is fine, but it does not mean it is traditional.

I firmly believe that a traditional kung fu class should look the same most classes, kicks, throws, weapons, strikes, seizing, all the time, every time, everyone to their ability. Two weeks between working throwing is almost not working throwing at all, it’s such a subtle skill, imo.[/QUOTE]
I see what you are saying. I agree, I tend to try and do a little bit of everything, but I do like to run things in a cycle where I emphasize one thing over another. I think that you are right. I guess that I didn’t understand your question.

david ross is real deal. look at his cold, dead eyes.

[QUOTE=HumbleWCGuy;1126080]I see what you are saying. I agree, I tend to try and do a little bit of everything, but I do like to run things in a cycle where I emphasize one thing over another. I think that you are right. I guess that I didn’t understand your question.[/QUOTE]

I think we were just discussing two separate topics. If I’m understanding you correctly, I agree, understanding your style would naturally minimize any additions necessary.

Mulong:

Curriculums are different for each Sifu. Some stick to the old school style and teach how they were taught. Some go the modern sport combat style. Some go the commercialized kung fu.

More than 20 years ago our curriculum was very old school. Heavy Sparring, Fighting drills. My teacher stated if you don’t or can’t do want I ask then don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

Back then if we had 2 or 4 student s in the classroom it was cool. No problem, there was no big bills to pay and both of us were single.

Then both of us got married… wow that changed everything. Now we had 2 wives that wanted $$$$$$$ and we had houses or rent to pay. So the curriculum changed so we could have more students paying more tuition. All of a sudden we found ourselves trying to meet the needs of the students, instead of trying to force the students to buck up and learn what we had to offer.

So now the curriculum has changed. Now I have fat and over weight students (Which never made it before), now I have older woman who can’t or won’t spar cause thier to fragile, now I have student s who only like to learn FORM etc.

I still offer a traditional class and have a few old school students, but most of the new students are in this modern class cause they would suffer greatly in my traditional class.

ginosifu

[QUOTE=Mulong;1126037]
Typically old school shifus weren’t able to adjust their teaching format to fit the need of their students; they expected their students to do it exactly the same and not taking into account the difference in psychological makeup and physicality.[/QUOTE]

Did you have a bad experience with an “old school” sifu? Are there specific ones you had in mind?

That wasn’t my experience. But maybe I was lucky.

I knew a sifu who did a northern style AND a southern short hand style. He certainly knew both but made his students choose one OR the other and NEVER let them learn both

I knew a short hand sifu who could not accept the “gwa” motion, it wasn’t in HIS system and even though one of the core drills was EASIER and better with gwa (as opposed to jong) he wouldn’t let his students do it. I did it anyway and always landed it on them LOL :wink:

Shum Leung (Ying Jow Pai) seemed to me pretty progressive

CTS had studied all over the place and frankly had no regard for “tradition”

I guess it’s a mixed bag

But you could also say most of the Chinese sifu never looked outside of CMA much

[QUOTE=Mulong;1126037] not taking into account the difference in psychological makeup and physicality. [/QUOTE]

On the very first day I was accepted as a student, my teacher said, “Ok, I let you join the class. He <pointing to my friend who already was a student> needs a partner. You will be good at ramming techniques.” Which was his way of saying, direct and very aggressive methods.

I seem to add and delete drills and techniques allthe time based on research and experiences.

I drill will suddenly create 3-4 variations depending on distance, reactions, angles, experience and physical skills.

Paul
www.moifa.co.uk

My curriculum and training methods are constantly in a state of change and evolution
Your training always needs to evole. I know this often frustrates stude.ts, especially those who tale nreaks and come back to a different school “oh no, he’s changed it again!” Bit most get that it has always been my way, " If I can find a better way of training my students, I’d be s fool not to use it."

In sport Chinese wrestling, you don’t have to worry about your opponent’s punch and kick, pull/drag you down. Since you and your opponent have SC jackets on, you try to take advantage on that jacket hold.

In combat, not only you don’t have SC jacket on (your opponent may not even has T shirt on), you have to deal with your opponent’s punch and kick. Youi also have to deal with your opponnet’s “pull guard” and “jump guard” which had never happened in the traditional Chinese wrestling, A lot of modification will be needed in the field of the Chinese wrestling in order to “evolve”.

[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1126261]In sport Chinese wrestling, you don’t have to worry about your opponent’s punch and kick, pull/drag you down. Since you and your opponent have SC jackets on, you try to take advantage on that jacket hold.

In combat, not only you don’t have SC jacket on (your opponent may not even has T shirt on), you have to deal with your opponent’s punch and kick. Youi also have to deal with your opponnet’s “pull guard” and “jump guard” which had never happened in the traditional Chinese wrestling, A lot of modification will be needed in the field of the Chinese wrestling in order to “evolve”.[/QUOTE]

When my student was training for SC, it was fun using grips, it made it easier for some of the students to get the idea of the momentum necessary for throws.

Then, when we weren’t wearing them, there was an adjustment phase of figuring out how to do some throws without the jackets. Suddenly, everyone had a higher motivation to actually use gripping, and I didn’t have to explain why, or field questions about “but it’s internal kung fu, isn’t this not gentle?” They saw that the working with the kinetic energy of an opponent is about as internal as it gets.

One student’s wife calls him “my little tomato” because he always has bruises where others have gripped him to attempt to setup certain throws. I have, thus far, resisted the temptation of calling him that.