Alright, I don’t want any “it takes a lifetime to master” answers. How long did it take you to learn the SLT form to the point where you could beneficially practice it on your own (meaning, without your sifu having to make corrections).
I think this is the second shortest form I’ve ever seen (in terms of moves, not time to complete). The shortest would be the first Isshinryu form I learned, empei <sp> kata, when I was 8.
I learned the movement in a couple of days.
But learning the mechanical part is only a smal part of learning SLT.
So in essense, im still learning to do it properly.
yup, enpi in isshinryu. I don’t think we had a Wansu. If you want I’ll go check in my box of old karate stuff (if i can find it) for the list of forms we had. I only learned the first 4. Let me see if I can remember the names…
Empi (or Enpi)
Seisan
Seiuchin
Nihanchi
Yeah! Those are the 4 I learned. Ahhh, back in the day…
It took me about 7 months to learn all the movements of the first form. This seems a lot longer than all the previous replies but i had to be able to do it correctly before learning more. did anyone else learn like this or did you learn the whole form then improve the whole thing when you practice.
i’ve been training wing chun for around 18 months now. I know all the gross ‘movements’ of SLT but i am still trying to refine everything, use the correct energy, develop my stamina (in doing SLT) etc. I don’t think i’ll ever get it right!:eek: Each time i go and see my Sifu (which is about once a month right now ), i get corrected, so have more to work on.
I just wish i had someone i could train chi sau with! Being away at Uni sucks!
Where I train you’re taught the form in three sections, and progress from one to the other (errr… naturally).
I recently had the chance to perform the second and third section of SLT while alone with my instructor. I thought I had the movements covered (reasonable form/structure, correct use of energy)…
I was so wrong it hurts Many, many minor points I was pulled up on. I’ve been training for less than a year, so I can’t grumble, but theres a long way to go.
Learning the sequence of movements is a quick process, but it seems performing them at a respecatable level takes… just a little longer
I don’t even want to think about CK until 2003! If I have problems standing still, how the hell am I gonna move!!!
I learn something everytime I do the slt. Mastery- I dont know what that is. A wingchunform is something different from a karate form. We have only(most of us) 3 inter-related very deep forms.
Learning the sequence of the slt and learning slt are quite different things.
Iron Fist:
I was probably a month or more into my training before I had learned all the gross movements. However, I still want and recieve corrections on my form from my sifu, and probably will for many years still.
I think it took me a few days to learn the motions of SLT, but I find that everyday I have to adjust something, my sifu has to adjust something, I find that I am doing something wrong, too tight, to fast, too slow, elbow not in enough, elbow too in, stance not deep enough, yadda yadda.
I have a feeling it will be that way for the rest of myself!
But if I understand your question, you are looking to find out when it is ‘safe’ to practice it on your own? I say when you feel comfortable with it, if you go to class regularly any mistakes you may make should be corrected by your sifu or sihing as you go along.
I personally dont like to look at it as mastering the form, I think getting the motions down just takes alot of practice, getting the form right, a lot more, in a year or so, most people seem to be doing it right, its just understanding it that may take a lifetime!
Am I way off here?
Learning SLT is not difficult but it takes lots of times and practice before someone begins to learn FROM it (It depends greatly on the individual).And,I think once it is started it never ends!