Don’t forget he was a champion kickboxer as well.
Ryu
Darknight
Why didnt you turn up then? hey? whats the matter? I waited for you and only a man with a dog and a couple of joggers were in the area for an hour! Well I was willing to back up my words unlike others!
Ryu
I dont think thats why he didnt turn up! He is most likely done small portions of various martial arts and never really acomplished anything! And so what if I was NSW state kickboxing Champ? Do you really care? What does it matter to you? I know that I was state champ, say what you like bacause I know the truth and you cant say otherwise!
Jon
Well Im glad that you know those people well I guess I will see you in class then on Wednesday! Doubt all you like but you can prove nothing ! My comments do not prove who I am as a martial artist only my ability!
Darknight
And what answer are you after? Why should I answer it ? Have you answered any of mine? Did you turn up for the fight, well no you didnt thats right you were scared of someone you claim to be a kid! LMAO!!!
TO ALL!!!
Internal Gung-Fu is far more superior to jui-jitsu or wrestling!
We always need a good dishwasher!
“Well Im glad that you know those people well I guess I will see you in class then on Wednesday!”
- Which class would this be? I doubt highly your a student of either of my two sifu and im sure who ever your real sifu are they would not be to happy to hear about your comments. Who do you claim as your teacher then?
"Doubt all you like but you can prove nothing ! "
- I only need prove things to myself, ive already made up my mind regarding you. Though i always try to remain open to people who seek to change.
“My comments do not prove who I am as a martial artist only my ability”
- Your comments dont prove who you are but they prove your ability…
Ding dong, your a fool who has no skill.
That was an effort…
Now who do you claim as your teacher?
Jon
Very interesting comments? First of all why would I tell you who my teacher is? Of cause he would be unhappy I would be kicked out! But I refuse to give information that reveals my identity! I will leave my details at this I study Wing Chun! Now come on you said you new the people you are from Sydney now you put the puzzle together! I would just like to take this oportunity to express how much Laughter I have had getting everybody to reply and starting all of this !
sunstylin
“Very interesting comments?”
- You asking me or telling me?
“First of all why would I tell you who my teacher is?”
- Just checking if you had a spine and were willing to be held accountable for your convictions. My sifus are both in my profile for all to see. Proberly a big part of the reason why i watch my mouth:D
“I refuse to give information that reveals my identity!”
- Yeah i gotta admit with the rubbish your talking i would keep my identity a secret as well. You already slipped when you dropped names of Sydney instructors so why stop now?
“I will leave my details at this I study Wing Chun!”
- If your a Wing Chun student then im sure your just another face in the usual mass. Im friends and training partners with one of Rick Spains students, there usualy pretty respectable people.
Rick Spain himself is respectfull of the UFC.
“Now come on you said you new the people you are from Sydney now you put the puzzle together!”
- I already did that, none of the people i know speak in your tones and use your word structures. Your a kid im betting not even out of puberty yet. Your also proberly a short time student of one of sydneys many wing chun schools.
“I would just like to take this oportunity to express how much Laughter I have had getting everybody to reply and starting all of this !”
- Your only saying that becouse you have been publicy rediculed, you started out hopping for support but instead have been shot down in a blaze of glory.
Keep laughing its good for your health, still remember that you have not done anyone any favors.
All the best and enjoy your Wing Chun.
Jon
Jon your kidding yourself, my words prove nothing I have only given out the impression that I know nothing because, there has been no Wing Chun masters in the UFC, I know it , you know it, MA Fanatic knows it! OK we have one Gung-Fu master in the UFC, and the William Cheung incident! Well firstly Van Clief was smashed, he is not that great, I ask has he completed learning the forms? William Cheung I will not back up as he lied about knowing Wing Chun secrets! I see no point in proving that I know anything when someone doesnt even answer my questions!(MA Fanatic this is you) If you think that Im going to reveal myself by naming the school, you are kidding yourself, why would I want to get kicked out over starting this silly thread? Come now you seem wise, surely you can see this is only entertainment for me and my friends! However I stand by what I have said about myself!LOL! Try again Jon Maybe I will tell! But Wing Chun is techically supirior to wrestling and Jui-Jitsu! this is my first serious statement! Please fill free to coment anybody, I will go indepth with any Qs you may ask! If I know the answer!
Don’t concentrate on the finger or you will miss all the heavonly glory
sunstylin
Dont mistake me, whilst i dont agree with what you say and i do see you as doing a diservice to Chinese martial arts im not about to go crying to your sifu about it. I was however hopping you may have enough gutts to put yourself up for critizism after openly bashing others.
“Wing Chun is techically supirior to wrestling and Jui-Jitsu!”
- Can you back this up with any facts or examples?
How is it ‘technically superiour’? Can you give examples of well known Wing Chun practioners defeting Wrestling and Jui Jitsu guys? Or is this just another one of your opinions that you have choosen to list as a fact?
If Wing Chun is so supperiour to grappling arts then i ask you again…
Why does Rick Spain, the man you listed as being a Wing Chun ‘master’ capable of competing in the UFC teach BJJ???
You say you will answer questions so there are your first two, lets see how well you do.
Jon
Come on now, where did I say I was a student of Rick Spain? I only said that I consider him a master! Im sure that you are friends with everybody ! But this has been a laugh session for me if you look up Wing Chun Vs Judo you will see that I have done the seme thing!
*Your only saying that becouse you have been publicy rediculed
Well tell me how this has happened since I dont know any of you and dont care about any of you!
Dont make me laugh!
*you started out hopping for support but instead have been shot down in a blaze of glory.
Well tell me how this has happened! I never expected any support and have stated it , I just tried to get people rowed up! Shot down I havent made any serious statements except about who I am, stop kidding yourself Jon, it doesnt help you! P.S I was telling you! People can take on other personalities on the net, think about it!
NICE TRY!LOL
sunstylin
“Come on now, where did I say I was a student of Rick Spain?”
- When did i say you where? If you were not though you wouldnt have carred less what i thought! hehe your not so hard to figure out im afraid sunstylin…
“Im sure that you are friends with everybody !”
- I cant say that, i do try my best to be a kind hearted person and give respect to others on the same path. Yes i know the Sydney kung fu scence pretty well.
"Well tell me how this has happened since I dont know any of you and dont care about any of you! "
- Its in plain text for all to see, your little media personality has recived no credit and neither has your argument, meaning you have totaly wasted your time;)
"if you look up Wing Chun Vs Judo you will see that I have done the seme thing! "
- Dude please try and at least make sence whilst your pretending to be a 33 yo kung fu student who has studied every art under the sun and is a kickboxing champion.
“Well tell me how this has happened!”
- Have you even read the replies to your own posts yet?
“I never expected any support and have stated it”
- You posted a paraphrased comment from someone on another thread and then asked for others to tell you there opinion on it. Why do you even care then?
“I just tried to get people rowed up!”
- Thats about the third time you have changed your apparent ‘aim’ in posting this thread. Make up your mind, are you trolling or trying to get opinions on UFC and TCMA?
“Shot down I havent made any serious statements except about who I am”
- Ok then you admit all your posts are rubbish except the ones where you talk about yourself! Im happy with that too:D
“stop kidding yourself Jon, it doesnt help you!”
- I stopped kidding myself a long time ago, i help myself - i try and avoid burdoning others. Thats what are arts are for remember?
“I was telling you! People can take on other personalities on the net, think about it!”
- Yeah but there is only so much you can do, if your intelligent its quite easy to do a good job. When your still in school and are unable to construct a factual arguement its much harder. If your taking on a personality then your doing either a BRILLIANT job of acting like you have no idea of the facts at hand or your just incredibly naieve. Im going with the latter!
Now do you remember saying this???
“Please fill free to coment anybody, I will go indepth with any Qs you may ask! If I know the answer!”
- Then you may also remember me asking you this…
Can you back this up with any facts or examples?
How is it ‘technically superiour’?
Can you give examples of well known Wing Chun practioners defeting Wrestling and Jui Jitsu guys?
i
s this just another one of your opinions that you have choosen to list as a fact?
If Wing Chun is so supperiour to grappling arts then i ask you again…
Why does Rick Spain, the man you listed as being a Wing Chun ‘master’ capable of competing in the UFC teach BJJ???
Come on you invited me to ask you questions and even went so far as to state you would offer indepth answers!
Well are you going to hold true to your own statements or are those questions just to darn tough for you to handle?
I REALLY hope you dont play your fists like you argue if so Master Spain would be mortified!
P.S
In the true fitting fashion of this forum…
I dub thee TROLL!
sun,
Thanks for clearing up that WC is technically superior to BJJ, Wrestling, Boxing, GPS, and the Warp Drive.
Would you like a cookie?
Technically superior or different? Are you saying that the kinesiology behind the applications is superior in structure or the way that they are applied? Or, as I suspect, are you simply playing the “sifu says” game?
WC infighting and speculation is worse than anything I’ve ever seen. Get a grip, throw on some fingerless fight gloves, find a buddy who doesn’t do WC and beat the **** out of each other.
What Machado instructor did you study under?
Originally posted by Merryprankster
Are you saying that the kinesiology behind the applications is superior in structure or the way that they are applied?
THIS is why you don’t argue with Merry, OK?!
I would crawl headfirst into the heap of sh!t that is this thread, and make a point in WC’s favour, but given the prime example of Sunstylin [who seems to represent a large portion of WC-ers] I’d like to see what he says.
"And what answer are you after? Why should I answer it ? Have you answered any of mine? Did you turn up for the fight, well no you didnt thats right you were scared of someone you claim to be a kid! "
Show up to an unknown location? You dont want to admit where you are
"But I refuse to give information that reveals my identity! "
but you will challenge anyone to a fight…if they can find you.
Im dropping my estimate down, I say your 13 at best.
Again, go to a mirror, place your finger and thumb on your forehead.
If WC is so superior why wont a master drop by on the way home and earn a couple thousand dollars for very little work.
UFC has paid up to $250 thousand.
And the world would be schocked as WC is proven superior
What makes an art “superior”?..
…The individual practicing it! Nobody ,mature and serious in Wing Chun or any other style will say that his art is “superior” to the others! I agree to it’s principles and it’s ways of training (A personnal thing!)but that does not means that I don’t respect what the others are doing. In my mind, only jerks like Ralek, will say things like that!
We don’t need to prove anything to anybody. If a Wing Chun “master”,as you say Dark Knight,would compete and win in some NHB competition,the only thing it would prove is that HE was superior at this moment and place.
“If a Wing Chun “master”,as you say Dark Knight,would compete and win in some NHB competition,the only thing it would prove is that HE was superior at this moment and place.”
My post is in response to Sun’s comments. He feels that if a WC master were to fight he would win. But they other KF people who have fought did not win because they are not masters.
Sorry!
I guess I misunderstood your post Dark Knight!