Another McCain decision that irks Bush: his choice of Sarah Palin as his ‘08 running mate. This doesn’t make it into the Bush book, but the New York Daily News’ Tom DeFrank writes that the former president, like his former strategist Karl Rove, has told friends that he doesn’t think Palin is qualified to be president and blames McCain for giving her a national platform. “Naming Palin makes Bush think less of McCain as a man,” a Republican official familiar with Bush’s thinking told DeFrank.
[QUOTE=MasterKiller;1058346]Another McCain decision that irks Bush: his choice of Sarah Palin as his ‘08 running mate. This doesn’t make it into the Bush book, but the New York Daily News’ Tom DeFrank writes that the former president, like his former strategist Karl Rove, has told friends that he doesn’t think Palin is qualified to be president and blames McCain for giving her a national platform. “Naming Palin makes Bush think less of McCain as a man,” a Republican official familiar with Bush’s thinking told DeFrank.
President Bush was on the Rush Limbaugh Show today and he completely denied saying that.
[QUOTE=BJJ-Blue;1058619]President Bush was on the Rush Limbaugh Show today and he completely denied saying that.[/QUOTE]
He said there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq too. He should have been given the treatment Saddam got. He could have been an awesome president if he had only done what he said he would in the campaign. As it is.. he is without question going to be one of the top contenders for worst US President EVER.
[QUOTE=dimethylsea;1058627]As it is.. he is without question going to be one of the top contenders for worst US President EVER.[/QUOTE]
You go ahead and tell yourself that.
It’s laughable you say that with the current President presiding over national debt and unemployment rates MUCH higher than they were under Bush.
Bush gets too much blame for our economic situation. It really was a team effort, he just happened to be sitting in the chair when it all went down, and obviously did nothing the prevent it. He’s just one of many politicians on both sides responsible. Still should be a war criminal though.
[QUOTE=B-Rad;1058638]Bush gets too much blame for our economic situation. It really was a team effort, he just happened to be sitting in the chair when it all went down, and obviously did nothing the prevent it. He’s just one of many politicians on both sides responsible.[/QUOTE]
He did try and prevent it in 2004. Congress refused to act, the Democrats played the race card (because the chairman of Fannie Mae was African-American), and Barney Frank, Maxine Waters, and Chris Dodd said Fannie and Freddie were not in any trouble. See the video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs
As to it being partially Bush’s fault, can you please tell us what relevant legislation Bush signed into law and how said legislation caused the mess we are in now?
[QUOTE=B-Rad;1058638]Bush gets too much blame for our economic situation. It really was a team effort, he just happened to be sitting in the chair when it all went down, and obviously did nothing the prevent it. He’s just one of many politicians on both sides responsible. Still should be a war criminal though.[/QUOTE]
he began with a huge surplus left to him like a gift from the previous admin. Dems under Clinton.
Bush was a puppet to an agenda that he liked, but didn’t have the savvy to run himself and so Rove, Cheney, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, Rice, Powell et al ran teh show for him and he would nod when they did something and choke on pretzels when it got all too much.
I knew Bush was a fraud and useless when Powell left. Powell never bailed on anything in his Life but for some reason, he bailed on George W Bush.
I respect Powell for that. I’d respect him more if he called it like it is, but he got out when he knew he should because there were the wrong people at the helm of the country and it would be extremely damaging to his chances to further serve the country he loved if he stuck with them.
So, out of that whole pack of loons and frauds, who is getting asked to make speeches? Who is getting invited into international think tanks? what’s that? none of them because they are despised by virtually the whole world? Go figure.
P.S don’t post up some lame conservative christian group from stinkbutt down south who wanna listen to W babble. Jeez, I don’t even think his book is gonna be of much interest to anyone.
lol, you darn right it was Bushes fault, the recession, the trade problems, the lack fo diplomatic relations, the two wars, the terrorist attacks that they were warned about and did nothing about, the whole wmd fiasco, the lying, the stealing, the cheating. Yes, all that falls squarely on the shoulders of those who made it happen in the Bush administration of 2000-2008.
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1058652]he began with a huge surplus left to him like a gift from the previous admin. Dems under Clinton.[/QUOTE]
First off, there was no surplus. There was PROJECTED surplus. Second, Bush took over facing a recession, ie the Dot-Com bubble had burst on Clinton’s watch and he had to clean that mess up.
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1058652]lol, you darn right it was Bushes fault, the recession,…[/QUOTE]
Let me guess, you still can’t point to ANY legislation Bush signed into law that caused this mess.
One time i took over management of a resturaunt with a bad reputation, that was deserved because they had bad management, poor quality service and under standard product. I came in, i worked hard, i slowly got that place on track and eventually the bad rep started to disolve, our service and standard was way up and we provided what we claimed and started to develop a good customer base to work with.
however it was quite a timely process. it was difficult for me as the new management to have to constantly defend myself and my resturaunt from its previous management, bad practices and bad company. I couldnt fix everything over night. It took me some time. But when questioned i was able to show what I was doing to change things around and get the shop back to where it was supposed to be.
the funny thing is, sales were way down, and unfortunately that year i took over didnt look to great because I had to make some SERIOUS adjustements to the entire structure of the way business was being handled. That resulted in loss for that year, because I had to spend money, and adjust the way we were spending money in general. During that adjustment period things didnt look so great. BUT when all was said and done i saved that place from closing. when you look back at the entire ordeal, there was a period during that transition where people assumed I was at fault for things that had been in place before i ever even stepped foot on the property. Simply because I was the man in charge and things werent where they should be. Unfortunately I dont perform magic and left my genie in my bottle at home, so it came down to good ol fashioned planning, acting, and waiting for the good practices to catch us up and remove the bad label that had settled there over the past few years before i appeared.
as they say hindsight is always 20/20
luckily i had full power and no one there to c0ck block my changes. I hit a few road bumps, because no one is perfect.
whats my point? i dont know, but i did get all that bad rap put on my head, just because I was the man on the job at that time. was it fair? no. could i change peoples perceptions? not right away, no. But eventually i did.
The fact is when you are the man with the job, the ‘mob’ that is the public doesnt care if you started, finished or were even involved in the mess. they only want answers and action from you to fix it. thats how it works. thats the way it works when you are a leader of any sort. and guess what, you dont argue back like the jokers calling you the sh!t face, you smile and nod and work your ass off to fix the issue.
Or in Bush’s case, Run away for hundreds of days of vacation, deny pretty much everything, ignore the rest, lie, cheat and steal, then quietly fade away. 
lol at people who defend that guy. He’s robbed you, would rob you again and would have no qualms about putting you in harms way while making sure he isn’t.
the very definition of disreputable.
and Lucas, the picture you paint of the restaurant manager you were is like a picture of the president Obama is.
policy? lol. what a friggin joke. Go down and into the weeds avoiding ever have to deal with the fact that the Bush admin was a huge failure and he is likely the WORST president ever to be in that office.
An utter disgrace and a foul human being all round. And there is zero, zip, nada that will change mine or billions of opinions on him that are just like that.
Nobody likes the dude and what he did except for, greedy people who threw in with him and hicks who don’t know any better.
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1058670]lol at people who defend that guy.[/QUOTE]
Of course I defend him. When NOT ONE of his detractors can point to ANY legislation he signed that caused the mess, I see no reason not to defend the man.
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1058670]and Lucas, the picture you paint of the restaurant manager you were is like a picture of the president Obama is.[/QUOTE]
No it isn’t. If Lucas had been like Obama, sales would have went down, food costs would have went up, and Lucas would still be blaming the previous manager.
[QUOTE=BJJ-Blue;1058681]No it isn’t. If Lucas had been like Obama, sales would have went down, food costs would have went up, and Lucas would still be blaming the previous manager.[/QUOTE]
Yes it is. Bush was terrible and Obama is much better but you republicans are anti american and try to interfere or stop anything president Obama tries to do because you are a bunch of self righteous, greedy racists.
It’s that simple.
YOu got a huge tax break from Obama, more than anything Bush gave you.
You are now coming out of a recession that you republicans and neo cons said was gonna spiral into a great depression! It didn’t, it’s not and it’s getting better because of the plan that Obama implemented and stuck to.
George Bush and the republican party screwed up all of America through the first decade of the new millenium.
Obama will correct most of the hard feelings and has already put in a lot of effort towards developing solid foreign policy which is something that Bush was a failure at.
So long as NONE of the current crop of republicans ever sees the oval office, it should be ok for the next ten years.
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1058683]Yes it is. Bush was terrible and Obama is much better but you republicans are anti american and try to interfere or stop anything president Obama tries to do because you are a bunch of self righteous, greedy racists.[/QUOTE]
Yet again. :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1058683]YOu got a huge tax break from Obama, more than anything Bush gave you.[/QUOTE]
We did? Please cite the legislation. 
And if you actually can do that, please also show that it was bigger than Bush’s tax cuts.
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1058683]George Bush and the republican party screwed up all of America through the first decade of the new millenium.[/QUOTE]
Say it all you want, but it’s all bs until you actually show us how.
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1058683]So long as NONE of the current crop of republicans ever sees the oval office, it should be ok for the next ten years. :p[/QUOTE]
LMFAO!!! Give the Democrats that much time and unemployment will reach 100%. :eek:
hey it could be alot worse… they could be putting sharron angle and her wonderful tactful racial opinions in the forefront instead… she is such a douche lol… “i dont know that you’re all latino, some of you look sort of asian to me” classic… the best part is, she doesnt understand what is so offensive about her “completely reasonable and unbiased opinions”… wtf was she thinking urging latinos not to vote as a means of positive action for change… “if you wetb@cks don’t vote, i’ll win for sure… don’t worry, i’ll roll thru crumbin’, there will be lots of leftovers for ‘you people’!!!”
but then i cant take anyone, who publically supports teabagging, very seriously at all…
oh i can just think of all the puns and insults… almost too easy… maybe we can mix in some “if you touch my junk i’ll have you arressted” in there too… TSA style bee-eye-itches!!!
[QUOTE=BJJ-Blue;1058690]Yet again. :rolleyes:
We did? Please cite the legislation. And if you actually can do that, please also show that it was bigger than Bush’s tax cuts.
Say it all you want, but it’s all bs until you actually show us how.
LMFAO!!! Give the Democrats that much time and unemployment will reach 100%. :eek:[/QUOTE]
blue… trickle down is bullsh!t and you know it… anyone who believes thats the best way to keep people happy and fed are too naive to have this conversation with… theres a seriously fundamental difference in thought there, its really pointless in even arguing about it… at this level, that is… maybe for practice, i guess…
honestly guys, i would be terrified if either side of the isle had free reign for any prolonged length of time… a cant stand these douchebag liberal pus$ies just as much as these bible thumping conservative thieves… we are all lucky that both sides are pretty much equal in power… two party system is better than a one party system forsure… but i think we run our affairs with more representation to the individual and familly unit, here in canada… the parliamentary system is better in so many ways… yes it has many flaws… but i also like that we have more than two parties… there are four competative tickets in canda… with two more on the rise, one of which will probably have a seat next term…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p73S2dMarRw
“Why would I care if it’s a Democrat or a Republican robbing me??? I’m just trying to avoid the robbery!!!” - Quotes from Cenk
[QUOTE=Syn7;1060017]blue… trickle down is bullsh!t and you know it… anyone who believes thats the best way to keep people happy and fed are too naive to have this conversation with… theres a seriously fundamental difference in thought there, its really pointless in even arguing about it… at this level, that is… maybe for practice, i guess…[/QUOTE]
Actually it’s not BS, it worked beautifuly in the 1980s. There is a reason you liberals call it “The Decade of Greed”. And it’s not because we had 10% unemployment and record foreclosures.
As to having a conversation with me, let’s try it. Perhaps you can do what NO ONE else has done. Please cite what legislation GW Bush signed into law that caused the mess we are in. Cite the legislation and then explain how said legislation caused the mes. Should be simple for someone such as yourself.
[QUOTE=Syn7;1060019]honestly guys, i would be terrified if either side of the isle had free reign for any prolonged length of time…[/QUOTE]
This part I do agree with. Look, I’ll be honest here. I don’t like not having a choice when I vote. And I can’t vote Democrat, period. Right now they are socialists. That’s not always been the case. They used to really be for ‘the working man’. My father grew up a Democrat. He didn’t leave the Party, it left him. And millions of other working people too. How can you be for the ‘working man’ when all you want to do to him is raise his taxes? Or regulate his company so much they offshore his job? How do those policies help the working man?
Are the Republicans perfect? NO! But to someone who believes in small Government, individual rights, and low taxes, they are the ONLY choice I currently have. I want the Democrats to move to the center so that I’ll have a real choice every November.
[QUOTE=BJJ-Blue;1060088]Actually it’s not BS, it worked beautifuly in the 1980s. There is a reason you liberals call it “The Decade of Greed”. And it’s not because we had 10% unemployment and record foreclosures..[/QUOTE]
You do realize that the S&L crisis contributed to the 10% unemployment in the early 1980s, right? I mean, it’s almost an indentical scenario to what is going on today. The estimated total cost of resolving the S&L crisis was more than $160 billion.