Originally posted by SevenStar I’ve been meaning to go check out some classes, but the only people that teach it here are with the sca, and I kinda question what the quality would be… I can’t pass judgement till I go check them out though, I suppose.
There’s a lot of quality fencers in the SCA, but the period fencing isn’t as entrenched in the organization as the stick combat is, so it’s not as obvious who the best people are. It’s certainly possible that there’ll be very good instruction, though.
Originally posted by Oso Seven, I’d be worried about more then authenticity with the SCA folks. If you think TCMA folks think their shiat don’t stink don’t get to talking to a SCA guy that thinks his mock combat IS combat.
Regional peculiarities aside, there are *******s in the SCA just like there are in TCMA and MMA.
SCA rec combat isn’t /real/ weapon fighting, but it’s likely as close as one can come without strapping on an actual claidhmore - and there’s a lot of crossover with ‘real’ stickfighting.
Originally posted by apoweyn
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Just bear in mind that the footwork in competitive fencing also runs contrary to the advice that you’d receive from most boxing coaches and the like. In fencing, you can’t really move from side to side very much. You advance and retreat on a single line.
But you get very good at it. [/B]
That is one advantage of learning SCA-style period fencing rather than competitive fencing, for someone who is also doing other martial arts - period style allows lateral movement, which means you’re not picking up conflicting habits as much.
That is one advantage of learning SCA-style period fencing rather than competitive fencing, for someone who is also doing other martial arts - period style allows lateral movement, which means you’re not picking up conflicting habits as much.
FD (i just typed FT again, it’s my fingers not me) my SCA experience was with Chapel Hill, NC and Boone, NC. So, I’ll partially retract my aspersion to SCA in general. The folks I met were boobs.
And they wouldn’t let me play unless I got all that armour :mad:
I told them I would lose my dexterity bonus if I put all that crap on.
Regional peculiarities aside, there are *******s in the SCA just like there are in TCMA and MMA.
Studded leather and an 18 dex gives you and AC of 3.
You’d have to put banded armor on to get that low and then you’re movement rate would be cut in half!
Fighters are stoopid:cool:
sorry about the rant on the SCA. I had a bit of a running argument with one of the guys in Boone. couldn’t prove anything because they wouldn’t let me spar unless I got armor. I wasn’t going to drop a couple hundred just to prove a good staffman would beat a sword and shield.
Originally posted by Oso sorry about the rant on the SCA.
S’okay; you had a bad experience. Beats the usual rants on TCMA and MMA. I just didn’t want it to get generalized into a bad impression of the SCA in general. It varies a lot by region and clan.
I had a bit of a running argument with one of the guys in Boone. couldn’t prove anything because they wouldn’t let me spar unless I got armor.
Well, you can’t spar without armor because they’re swinging bare rattan as hard as they can at each other. It’s a safety issue.
I wasn’t going to drop a couple hundred just to prove a good staffman would beat a sword and shield.
A good anything can beat anything else. If I were going against a good sword-and-board-er, though, a staff wouldn’t be my first choice.
S’okay; you had a bad experience. Beats the usual rants on TCMA and MMA. I just didn’t want it to get generalized into a bad impression of the SCA in general. It varies a lot by region and clan.
you’re right. ever heard of the Cimmerian league or something close to that? they had a training facility somewhere near Nashville. Trained you to be a knight, basically. thought seriously about applying once after a bad break up. now I can’t find any reference to them.
Well, you can’t spar without armor because they’re swinging bare rattan as hard as they can at each other. It’s a safety issue.
I know. Wasn’t worried with this group and they talked a lot of smack. you know, now that I think back on it, the head guy started the whole thing by making disparaging remarks about the school I was going to…so I offered to spar with him. Wouldn’t do it unless I got into the whole bit. hmmm, now that sounds familiar;)
A good anything can beat anything else. If I were going against a good sword-and-board-er, though, a staff wouldn’t be my first choice.
mebbe not, but since I was basically defending the honor of my school (sounds silly I know, be he was talking ****, I wasn’t) I wasn’t going to use a weapon set I wasn’t trained in.
now, staff against a REAL sword and sheild guy…hell no. but against this nimrods rattan stick and board, yep. all day long.
you’re right. ever heard of the Cimmerian league or something close to that?
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Not really, but I was never very active in the SCA; no time for it. When I fought at all it was usually in Markland, which has a somewhat different set of rules than the SCA (but a lot of members in common).
ever heard of the Cimmerian league or something close to that? they had a training facility somewhere near Nashville. Trained you to be a knight, basically. thought seriously about applying once after a bad break up. now I can’t find any reference to them.
They were Fly-by-Knights.
Originally posted by yenhoi
[B]I like single stick but thats what I train with.
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I’d do single stick vs. staff, but then I’m awful with a longstaff. I’d take knife vs. staff too (though I might feel differently after facing someone better with the staff than I am).
In terms of efficacy, yeah. But when I’m being absolutely honest with myself, I don’t know that I’ve got it in me to draw a blade on someone else. I can say all I want about life-or-death, defending my loved ones, etc. But I still don’t know.
And that’s something I should probably know before I pull out the balisong. Know what I mean?
