Brian Gray on sex offences, WOW iron palm that a$$. Thats some ****ed up sh!T!
Martial arts instructor accused of sex offenses:
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=7718406&BRD=1973&PAG=461&dept_id=214849&rfi=6
Yeah, I saw something o it on Bullshido. It’s pretty sad if you ask me. Can you imagine what must be going on inside of his camp rigth now? 
Can you imagine what must be going on inside of his camp rigth now?
no, and I really don’t want to. 
LOL
Imagine if he has to go to jail, he will need his kung fu and iron palm skill…I wonder how he would go in jail??
I don’t think any amount of skill would allow you to survive.
I think the punishment should fit the crime.
TRUE DAT!
Sad, to see someone of his level acting like a POOF! I wonder if it will close his school down?
What a miss he has got himself into!!
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I wonder if it will close his school down?
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You know, we had a sex scandle here at a gymnastics club called
American institute of Gymnastics. They are still open, but struggeling. They lost alot of competitors, DESPITE the offending coach being jailed. He was the owners son, but still, he was gone away “on vacation” and not only not coaching anymore, but not even there doing office work.
My guess, if Grey is the primary teacher, his club is going under, if it hasn’t already.
If I was one of his seniors, I would pull up stakes, and open a club of my own down the street and totally disavow any knowledge of him to the public. I think this is a case where buying a certificate from 1 (800) buyablackbelt, or even forging yourself a new one would be acceptable. Either that, or his seniors need to get together and form thier own association, and certify eachother, so they can have credentials that don’t lead back to Grey.
Either way you look at it, it’s a nasty situation. There will be direct and indirect casualties for sure.
…or how about just saying “I was a senior student of Mr. Grey’s and because of an unethical and immoral situation I am no longer associating with him. I learned a lot and you are welcome to see what I have to offer”
So he’s guilty as charged?
I dont know what everyone is so up in arms about.
It was probably sessions in taoist sexul meditation and massage. You know it says in Dr Yang Jwing Mings bbok on the muscle tendon changing classics that small young boys were used in the yin massage. IN fact it said that several small young boys were needed for the yin massage as they and i qoute “would get tired”.
im sure this is all a misunderstanding(heh heh heh)
F&Ckin Pedaphile a$$hole c0cksucker. i hope he gets his nuts tied to a big rock and then dropped off a cliff.
TWS.
OSO,
You know, if it was me, I’d find something other than Grey. I’d either convince all of the other seniors to form a new association for certifacation purposes so Grey’s name is not connected, or I would join a new association. His seniors can all list eachother as thier teachers. It is better than admiting they learned from a Pedopile in my book.
Hell, I’d even prefer to be under Shaolin Do or Cloud Forest, or even Temple Kung Fu to this one.
TWS, are you serious about Yang Jwing Mings books? I have to look that one up me thinks :eek:
YES RD I am
HAHA yep in his book the i chin ching muscle tendon/marrow brain washing chikung book. towards the back it has a section on the taoist sexual meditation.. haha its mainly about masterbation and tieing your nuts to a swinging weight. its funny and interesting but nothin i would ever do. i have my own way of chokin the chicken and it serves me just fine thank you.
did i just post this?
MRTWS
RD,
I agree with your intent but the examples you gave smack too much of the organizations you cited in your second email. I just don’t care for the “Hey you certify me and I’ll certify you” bit. I see it as a case of the sum being less than the parts.
Hmm. When I read the Muscle/Tendon changing book, it was obvious that the young boys were engaging in massage only, nothing sexual whatsoever. The idea being that they had the appropriate energy for the qi gong massage, which was described as rubbing in small-diameter circles around the belly area.
Only a very sick mind would read that any other way. Oh, who was the other poster that suggested that? Oh, that’s right, Stacey. You’re in good company, TWS.
:rolleyes:
OSO,
Yeah, on the whole I am in total aggreement with you, but when your faced with haveing to admit you learned form a Child molester, or the likes of a Temple Kung Fu, what do you do?? Your between a rock and a hard place.
Personally, I’d go certify under one of these personal trainer organisations that offeres “Martial arts” instructional certifications. I don’t know why I didn’t think of it in the last post, but it’s probably the most honerable way out of it.
Is this THE odd-toupe-wearing Iron Palm Brian Gray?
From the Cecil Whig newspaper,
Cecil Whig
P.O. Box 429
Elkton, MD 21922
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=7718406&BRD=1973&PAG=461&dept_id=214849&rfi=6
Martial arts instructor accused of sex offenses
By:Dewey Fox 04/15/2003
According to Smith, Gray first came under scrutiny on March 30 when one of his former martial arts pupils came forward and told authorities that Gray had sexually assaulted him on several occasions
The victim, whose name was not released, is a 32-year-old white male. The alleged sex offenses began in 1984 when he was 13, police said.
At the time of the offenses, Gray owned the Shao Lin San Kung Fu School at 111 W. Main Street, Elkton. The victim told state police investigators Gray had kept him at the studio after the martial arts lessons had ended and molested him. The studio has been closed for a number of years.
Police also allege Gray brought the boy to his Mountain Hill Road residence near Perryville where he allegedly performed sex acts with him and took pictures and videos.
The victim informed investigators that these incidents began in 1984 and continued on a weekly basis for the next four years. The alleged offenses ended when the boy was 17, police said.
Delaware police arrested Gray on Tuesday, April 8, and held him until Friday when he was extradited to Cecil County. A district court commissioner set his bond at $65,000, a figure Gray has been unable to meet.
Smith said the victim has named other students of Gray’s studio who had also been sexually abused. As it stands, no charges have been filed against Gray in any of those cases. However, the investigation remains open, Smith said.
Smith asked anyone who has information pertinent to this case or was a student at the martial arts studio at the time of the alleged offenses to call her at 410-398-8101.
At these prices, he should have been able to make bail:
“If you are accepted for a private lesson with Grandmaster Gray, one of Grandmaster Gray’s assistants will call you to schedule. Grandmaster Gray’s hourly fee is $275 per hour. During your private lesson, you may learn Iron Palm,or Kung Fu forms and weapons, or T’ai Chi Ch’uan. The session is determined by you.
Seminars are arranged by addressing your letter to Master Gray at the same address. Fee schedule for seminars is $1500 for a one-day seminar, $2500 for a two-day seminar.”
it seems it is - from delawareonline.com
Kung fu expert held in sex abuse
Del. teacher faces charges in Md.
By TERRI SANGINITI
Staff reporter
04/16/2003
A longtime Delaware martial arts instructor has been charged with sex offenses by Maryland State Police in connection with the molestation of a 13-year-old karate student nearly 20 years ago.
Delaware State Police arrested Brian W. Gray, 51, on fugitive charges April 8 at his Newport Kung Fu studio, 409 Meco Drive.
Gray was extradited Friday to Maryland, where authorities charged him with two counts each of second- and third-degree sex offense, and one count each of child abuse, perverted sex practice and sodomy. He is being held in the Cecil County jail after failing to post $65,000 bail, Maryland State Police Trooper Susan Smith said.
Gray, who has been teaching martial arts for 32 years, has operated several Kung Fu schools in the area over the years, including in Elkton, Bear, Peddlers Village and Newport. Gray now operates only one school, which is in Newport, police said.
Smith said the victim, now is in his early 30s, came forward March 30 with the accusations against Gray dating to 1984. She did not say why the victim waited so long to report the alleged incidents.
The victim, who was a student at the now-closed Shao Lin San Kung Fu School on West Main Street in Elkton, told police Gray allegedly molested him over a four-year period at Gray’s Perryville, Md., home.
Gray, who bills himself as the “the father of the Iron Palm in America,” was credited in the January issue of Inside Kung-Fu magazine with helping to popularize the iron palm technique, a Chinese kung fu skill involving physical hand strikes coupled with the use of the mind. The magazine called Gray one of the 30 most influential Chinese stylists of the past 30 years.
Smith said the investigation is continuing.
Anyone with information about this case is asked to call Smith at (410)398-8101.
sad…
I wonder how this affected the Iron Palm convention… anybody know if it still happened?
beautiful costumes were an important part of his scene
Shao Lin San Kung Fu School, based in Newport, DE, combines martial arts with exotic choreography, music, and beautiful costumes. In 1971 Grandmaster Brian Gray, a leading force in the promotion of genuine Shaolin martial arts and philosophy, founded the school. Shao Lin San is based on the belief that by searching through the records from the famous Shaolin Temple in Henan, China, one can locate the best methods and techniques for practicing the ancient Chinese art of Ch’uan Fa (Kung Fu in Western terms). With this theme Gray, known worldwide as the Father of the Iron Palm in America, strives to provide the best for those who seek the knowledge of Kung Fu within the walls of Shao Lin San. Students who train at Shao Lin San find that this school is not like any other in the United States. Gray patterns the training for his classes after no other model but the Shaolin Temple.
The School’s performances range from martial arts demonstrations, street parades and Chinese Lion Dances to elaborate costumed stage shows seen locally at The Grand Opera House, the Playhouse, and First Wilmington, as well as at First Night Annapolis, MD, and York, PA.