We saw the samething.
Originally posted by Stacey
I don’t see a lot of root or power generation, but most schools don’t
Stacey,
That’s exactly what i was saying.
The problem i have with it is how many schools do you see where the teachers don’t have root or power generation?
The students okay ,but the teachers?
If the teachers don’t have root or any power then how can they teach the students to be well rooted or bring out their power?
jmd161:)
Hint : Look for similarites in what he teaches, and Isshin-Ryu Karate.
Dre, care to clarify that statement?
Le nOObi
Nope, not putting other styles down.
If you read that whole article, you would understand that I was open-minded enough to express that, from an audience member’s point of view, other styles forms are more interesting/exciting to watch , and have more weapons than wing chun.
Re: Le nOObi
Originally posted by WCFighter
[B]Nope, not putting other styles down.
If you read that whole article, you would understand that I was open-minded enough to express that, from an audience member’s point of view, other styles forms are more interesting/exciting to watch , and have more weapons than wing chun. [/B]
Heres basicallly what you said in your article.
Pro’s of wingchun- combat effectivness
Pro’s of other styles- exciting to watch forms of/have more forms.
In my opinion thats putting the effectiveness of other styles down.
So go argue on the Wing Chun Forum.
Back to topic:
“He explained that he no longer practices that style and now does the PM as taight by Lee Kam Wing. GM Lee is famous as a grandstudent of Luo Guangyu.”
What was the style of PM on the tape?
Are the video clips on the site LKW 7Star Mantis?
I can’t see them behind my firewall at work.
Skard1
WCFIGHTER is right its not the style but their Sifu who looks funny you guys have to see him at the Tournaments he is always running around with some modern day black manchu. LOL
To jmd 161, There is no black tiger association in florida so dont come with that im tired of people trying to claim hark fu moon if your sifu is not authorized becuase i know there is no one in florida teaching fu-jow pai in Florida and so then he most likely is not certified tell him or her to buy some instrcuctional videos and teach you some real kung fu instead of contributing to this upcropping of false martail artist. So jmd 161 please have some respect and change your profile cause u have never seen real tiger claw.
you only fool yourself
There is no black tiger association in florida.
Originally posted by psycho monk
[B]To jmd 161, There is no black tiger association in florida so dont come with that im tired of people trying to claim hark fu moon if your sifu is not authorized becuase i know there is no one in florida teaching fu-jow pai in Florida and so then he most likely is not certified tell him or her to buy some instrcuctional videos and teach you some real kung fu instead of contributing to this upcropping of false martail artist. So jmd 161 please have some respect and change your profile cause u have never seen real tiger claw.
you only fool yourself [/B]
psycho monk,
I’m not going to go into a Black Tiger flame war with you or anyone else on this board.I never said my sifu taught " Fu Jow Pai " my sifu teaches BlackTiger style.Fu Jow Pai is not the only Black Tiger Known in China.I think you need to ask your Grandmaster Wai Hung who Fred woo is before you go starting trouble.Wai Hung knows my Master very well so go get your info sorted out because you’re the one looking like a fool right now.
You confuse us with Paul Koh and Shantung Black Tiger i don’t know or care about the problems your school of Black Tiger has with there’s.Grandmaster Wong Cheung was known throught Hong Kong for his Hung Gar and Black Tiger teaching.I or my sifu don’t need to make false claims.
This does’nt prove much about our Black Tiger ,but i think you need to read it or talk to your Grandmaster. Because it’s clear you don’t know much about Hark Fu Moon(Hak Fu moon,Huk Fu Muhn) at all.
jmd161:)
P.S. I think if you take time to read you will see it says Hong Kong ,but maybe Hong Kong looks like Florida to you.My sifu moved to the U.S. from Hong Kong. Where he was the Chairman of the Black Tiger Assocation.
jmd161 thanks for clearing that.
NOW BACK TO TOPIC…
Posted by Dre- “He is a charlatan.
Hint: Look for similarities in what he teaches, and Isshin-Ryu Karate.”
Really what does that mean, are you saying hes a fraud?
psycho monk posted- WCFIGHTER is right its not the style but their Sift who looks funny you guys have to see him at the Tournaments he is always running around with some modern day black Manchu.
Please more details, he is very well respected in LKW clan, so all this is shocking.
Skard1
Pulled from the mantis cave:
Raul Ortiz
He studied under shifu Bob Spoelstra and K. Keeler. He is now aligned himself with shifu Lee Kam Wing and he has met him a couple of times
Bob Spoelstra
He started under shifu Chui Chuen Luen, but only a few months because shifu Chiu Luen closed his school in 1982. Therefore most of his training was done under shifu Stanley Moy. He also trained under shifu Stanley’s gong-fu brother Jung Wa.
Shifu Spoelstra currently teaches in New Jersey (USA).
Re: There is no black tiger association in florida.
Originally posted by jmd161
[B]
psycho monk,
I’m not going to go into a Black Tiger flame war with you or anyone else on this board.I never said my sifu taught " Fu Jow Pai " my sifu teaches BlackTiger style.Fu Jow Pai is not the only Black Tiger Known in China.I think you need to ask your Grandmaster Wai Hung who Fred woo is before you go starting trouble.Wai Hung knows my Master very well so go get your info sorted out because you’re the one looking like a fool right now.
You confuse us with Paul Koh and Shantung Black Tiger i don’t know or care about the problems your school of Black Tiger has with there’s.Grandmaster Wong Cheung was know throught Hong Kong for his Hung Gar and Black Tiger teaching.I or my sifu don’t need to make false claims.
This does’nt prove much about our Black Tiger ,but i think you need to read it or talk to your Grandmaster. Because it’s clear you don’t know much about Hark Fu Moon(Hak Fu moon,Huk Fu Muhn) at all.
jmd161:)
P.S. I think if you take time to read you will see it says Hong Kong ,but maybe Hong Kong looks like Florida to you.My sifu moved to the U.S. from Hong Kong. Where he was the Chairman of the Black Tiger Assocation. [/B]
ROFL!!! Damn… just damn
i have never seen sifu ortiz do anything personnally, but from what i hear, he has a good reputation as far as his fighting ability. He is respected by a lot of kung fu sytlist out here in ny.
Posted by Dre- “He is a charlatan.
Hint: Look for similarities in what he teaches, and Isshin-Ryu Karate.”
I’ve only got as far as Seiuchin, but I didn’t see anything that looked like Isshinryu.
His classes grasshopper, dig deeper. You will find.
Ok I just saw the vids and noticed some things that made me think and say huh?
His ‘snake drop’ stance is really fab : 80% on the back leg 10% the front. (lol…dont know where the other 10 went…)
WATCH THE FIRST TAPE.
hahaha:D
You are not to smart are you!!!
jmd161 You ####in fooooooooollllllll.
First off your profile says your in miami which is in florida not hong kong LOSER. Second I never Said I did FuJowPai smart ass I am simply defending any style which i hear somone falsely claim , I dont care if you said Wushu , Wing Chun, CLF, Hung Gar s-h-i-t even tae bo LOL all im saying is i have seen mr.Woo number of times which is why i offered you tell him that supermartialmartsmart.com has some great prices and he should check it out. If you dont like me trying to help you on your quest for true martial arts then dont post if you cant accept criticism BIG BABY.
P.S
Anything is rare if its not real.
Back to the main post!
I think those vids were well they also made me say huh!LOL. But i must admit in my Many years of rigorous training in psycho kung fu i must say I also can effectively break the right elbow with the back of my neck, not to forget the Great Big Thing out of The Shadow Technique which is applied when i Blind his Left eye with my big right toe technique , you guys should really experiment the human body is a dangerous thing. Happy Training.
;)