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BAE HE
You obviously didnt watch the tape the white crane guy got beaten horribly. theres pics showing the white crane guy bleeding every were in the new wu style book. Wu gong yi never kicked it was against the rules. the white crane guy would have kick wu gong yi but when he tried wu gong yi would just take a step back and the white crane guy missed. in the end wu gong yi used grasping birds tail and smashed the guys nose It was more than just breaking it he like smashed it into the guys face. look in the new wu style book and see for yourself and dont post thing inless you know for sure. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Don’t get your panties in a wad!
Tempers always flair over the “Macao” fight. Many people say it was a sloppy fight with little technique involved. They seemed to be saying this as if it’s a slam against “Wu style” Taijiquan.
However…
I think both men probably came thinking the fight was going to be an exhibition of sort. (the stories I’ve heard support this) Then it somehow blew up into a full fledge fight in front of thousands. I’ve seen a couple of full fledge brawls in my day and all of them were sloppy by anyone’s account. The real thing(a fight) isn’t pretty, now matter how much technique someone has. It’s not a sport!!! It’s not Hollywood!!! It’s reality!"
I think “Wu style” Taijiquan gained from the incident. It proved that a man in his fifties using taijiquan could defend himself against a man who was using White Crane Boxing and who was twenty years younger.
Then when you factor in the fight was actually started over claims that “Wu style” Taijiquan wasn’t a “real martial art.” “Makes you giggle a little, doesn’t it?”
The Underdog won.
Isn’t this really why the fight is so famous?
The real question is: Was “Wu Gong Yi” really ever the underdog?
To me it’s the age difference that’s the most important fact, plus if we included Wu Gong Yi did most of the ass kickin, what else is there left to say?
After it was all over I bet the White Crane guy felt like a man with only one leg in an ass kickin contest!!!
Any Wu style taijiquan practioner can stand proudly by the Macao fight.
enouph said.
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No, I don’t practice Taijiquan!
Paul
Michigan
Here’s the link to the Gracie fight
If you’re looking to find High level kung fu or even people who know more than kick boxing with kung fu forms save your money.
The amazing part was the humblness of the BJJ school…and they gave the other MAs time to regroup and try again to show how it was not luck. What you’ll see is the same result ovder and over and over again. If you fight the same way they expect you to “as a kick boxer” you’ll see the same results.
One challenge was pretty sad…heart breaking…watching a vetern of some Korean style get wooped over and over and over again. He couldn’t believe it. Just seeing his tools become non effective when the distance is closed. Unlike Kung fu where the close distance is encouraged and inside fighting is constantly drilled and internal blows can be given at point blank.
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the video called “the Gracie Challenge” is not bad…just shows various styles walking into their school and testing it vs.BJJ.
Rory…
I suppose my brother lied to me about Wu kicking first. That would make alot of sense.
I doesn’t sound like you’ve seen the WHOLE fight.
I don’t care what you think. When I get the tape I will circulate it. You can stick your new WU book where the sun doesn’t shine and I’ll post what I want when I want.
Fair?
You don’t need to get rude pal. Like I said “these are things I have heard.”
I’m here to exchange information and gather information. Until I see the WHOLE fight that’s that. Now if your nice I will send you a copy when we find it.
Why?
Do people always try to kick against BJJ ers? It has got to be the stupidest thing to do in the world..open up with a kick, you go down. That simple.
Michael Panzerotti
Taijutsu Nobody from the Great White North..
SPANKY
Underdog? There’s a giggle. The guy was the heir designate of the WU style. Chan Hak Fu was not the head of the White Crane School as the Wu advertise.
50 huh? Over the hill? Ed Parker, Mas Oyama, Tony Anessi, that group of 50ish guys would probably destroy anyone.
Effectiveness? The was a dispute between Chinese Boxers and Tai Chi Chuan practitioners. There was some bad blood there. Read “Chinese Boxing, masters and methods” by Robert Smith. One Sifu stops teaching Mr. Smith when he finds out that Smith trains with Chen of the Chen school of Tai Chi.
I have no doubts about the press pushing these guys into the ring.
What I don’t understand is why Chan Hak Fu would fight on this point. The internal set Mee li Jum “cotton needle” is at the core of Bak Hok and very much resembles the movements of Yang style Tai Chi (cloud hands, single whip etc.)
As far as pictures of a broken nose, big deal.
I’ve had my nose broken. You’re stunned for a second and that’s that. I doesn’t really hurt unless it gets repeatedly struck.
As far as Bak Hok trying to turn the tables with mis-information, there’s your giggle Spanky.
Our art is nearly extinct (not Fukien!). Outside of my Kwoon and one similar in NYC, tell me where can I find a true Bak Hok Kwoon? You can’t.
Not enough people want to learn Bak Hok. The forms are too long and too hard. The system is huge in it’s entirety.
At any rate, it’s the WU who continually market the fight with the broken nose pictures and edited footage, not Bak Hok Pai.
I’ll keep my panties out of a wad when you get the sand out of your *****.
I don’t study Wu either, but what I study stresses the internal to maximize the growth in internal. I would love to train WU style as well, I had an earlier post about “Can anyone recommend any Tai Chi tapes or books”. I’m so hooked on the internal that I’d like to supplement and expand my traiining in that area.
Regards. Pete.
Heir Designate?
That would be Mah Yue Liang.
There.
I learned something already. I thought Wu Gong Yi inherited the style.
Bai he
I’m at a loss on how to reply to your post.
It appears that you really have got your panties in a wad after all.
Southern Wu
Practitioners of “southern” wu like to hold up the fact that Wu Gong Yi was Wu Jien Quan’s son, to give that impression. Personally, I’ve never really seen it be a “major” issue, except at www.wustyle.com which is southern wu.
wu jein chaun had several people he taught some taught alot of people (ma yeugh- liang sorry if spelled wrong, wu gong yi, wu kung jo etc) others only taught a few people the system ma was probaly the most popular of the masters.
Ma
Yes, but Ma is the person that Wu Jien Quan specifically designated as his heir, at least to my understanding.