That had to honestly be some of the worst take downs i have seen in awhile. That was like getting the legs and then stopping. The guy didn’t dog through and follow up with the take downs. He didn’t change levels properly, his face was looking at the ground, his back was lurched forward. Proper take down on a single is the spine is vertical. So for some guy to be stating he’s defending the takedown, he better get someone who knows what one is to try against.
[QUOTE=Dragonzbane76;1146326]That had to honestly be some of the worst take downs i have seen in awhile. That was like getting the legs and then stopping. The guy didn’t dog through and follow up with the take downs. He didn’t change levels properly, his face was looking at the ground, his back was lurched forward. Proper take down on a single is the spine is vertical. So for some guy to be stating he’s defending the takedown, he better get someone who knows what one is to try against.[/QUOTE]
Truth! How do I +rep you?
You can always tell when someone doesn’t know how to shoot when they gallop from ten feet away with their head down.
That’s what you get when you have a chunner attempting a takedown…so much fail. Good analysis by dragonz, and iron eagle right on no one in their right mind shoots from that far. The best shoots are from close range.
[QUOTE=Iron_Eagle_76;1146395]You can always tell when someone doesn’t know how to shoot when they gallop from ten feet away with their head down.[/QUOTE]
and thats exactly where the mindset of some silly ‘takedown defense’ ideas come from. people not understanding good shots in the first place and using their own mis conceptions as the basis for their ideas.
[QUOTE=Chadderz;1146180]Captain Obvious! Striking as your only option isn’t fantastic either.
Cross training is essential. Anti-grappling is the stupidest thing in the world.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkLTxwATgbs[/QUOTE]
The example you’ve given for anti-grappling is a terrible one. Many people think striking or grappling is good enough for self-defense. This thread has an important topic and that’s why others have contributed great opinions on it. I am talking about people who train in grappling and actually are good at getting out of takedowns. Not some lame WC’ers who are doing some very fake takedowns. I’m not saying WC is lame, just that the video provided is not an example of real anti-grappling.
The only way to learn to defend a take down is to train them. Learn the correct way to preform and defend. Learn grip fighting, sprawls ect. And train against a resisting competent partner
[QUOTE=shaolin_allan;1146594]The example you’ve given for anti-grappling is a terrible one. Many people think striking or grappling is good enough for self-defense. This thread has an important topic and that’s why others have contributed great opinions on it. I am talking about people who train in grappling and actually are good at getting out of takedowns. Not some lame WC’ers who are doing some very fake takedowns. I’m not saying WC is lame, just that the video provided is not an example of real anti-grappling.[/QUOTE]
There i no such thing as anti-grappling. There is only grappling. “Anti-grappling” was developed by people who can’t hack grappling. Same way there is no “anti-striking”.
Also, please post a good video of “anti-grappling”.
i personally dont like the term ‘anti grappling’. (to me that implies you are looking for grappling defenses without having to understand grappling, since you are ‘anti grappling’) there are grappling defenses for specific situations/techniques to be sure, and not all include grappling but most do. the best defense against most all grappling scenarios is generally going to be grappling itself. :eek:
[QUOTE=Chadderz;1146607]There i no such thing as anti-grappling. There is only grappling. “Anti-grappling” was developed by people who can’t hack grappling. Same way there is no “anti-striking”.
Also, please post a good video of “anti-grappling”.[/QUOTE]
Were are you based?
if you are in the UK you might have heard of karl tanswell, he came up with an anti grappling programme which the SBG guys use to good effect, of course he cant hack grappling, afterall hes only a BJJ blackbelt and greco coach
The MMA coach? 
Who is SGB?
[QUOTE=Chadderz;1146627]The MMA coach?
Who is SGB?[/QUOTE]
straight blast gym
thats him, good coach nice guy great grappler and his anti grappling programme is very good
Ground Fighting in the Street !
Another good reason to Re Evaluate if you are going to the Ground in a Street Fight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=00g5a416rdU
ginosifu
Or, if you’re the guy on bottom, maybe you need groundfighting so your woman doesn’t have to save you.
[QUOTE=MasterKiller;1146928]Or, if you’re the guy on bottom, maybe you need groundfighting so your woman doesn’t have to save you.[/QUOTE]
LOL!
MK, you have a good point there!
NICE!
I would take that chick home and put on my bib if she did that for me.
mickey
Wow, i’m really surprised at why there isn’t more SNIBE or Holier then Thou Comments!!!
I’m still expecting to see jokes about how
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Totally unrealistic, False pretenders of Street fights have been pushing this Warning of 3rd party interference to the wayside for years now. The video is probably a fake, because Nobody ever jumps in to save a friend. Especially a girl.
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What is supposed to happen is that a circle should form around the fighters and they should be allowed to finish the fight unmolested. Again, it’s unrealistic.
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a REAL Grappler would have been more street aware and would never have taken a kick to the face from a 3rd party…EVER because it doesn’t happen in the gym.
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OR not to be undone…Trained fighters also HAVE MOMS that can sneak up on your fight and do a better job of kicking your opponant in the face.
-It’s a documented fact that Moms or girlfriends of Trained fighters can fight better than those of untrained common street thugs.
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The girl or MOM was obviously a HIGHLY TRAINED MMA FIGHTER. Only THEY posses the Raw ability to knock a person out with a kick. It’s so obvious that THAT particular girl or mom has knocked out many people…she probably kicks bags and boards on a regular basis. Her clothes confirm it.
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OR…OR, wow if an untrained mom can knock someone out…imagine how much MORE KNOCKED OUT he would have been if she were a highly trained fighting er…Mom.
Why’d you show this Gino??? Geez 
i thought we already did this thread?!?!? 
[QUOTE=Lucas;1146956]i thought we already did this thread?!?!? [/QUOTE]
Sorry Lucas…I couldn’t resist. I know…Blame Gino…Ya blame him. haha
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