Originally posted by IronFist
And because we started on the ground
No offense to your training partner, but as a standup fighter (you train Wing Chun, right?) you really should be starting from a standing position. It’s important to learn what to do on the ground (in your case, you’d probably want to focus on escapes, so you can get back to your feet where you’re comfortable) but it’s equally important to learn how <i>not</i> to go to the ground to begin with. To do that you need to have someone who knows takedowns try them on you while you try to stop them.
Sorry if I come across as pedantic or *****y; just trying to help out with your training. Good luck!
See what u get for posting about your training IRON FIST??? LOL…IRON FIST simply wanted to learn the grappler’s game…if he wanted to fight/spar the grappler than he would have! This was just a training scenario.
ironfist (or anyone else), can i ask jun_erh’s question again?
ive never grappled at all so yeah. when someone is grappling with you, can you go all-out with punches and elbows? or will the grappler be aware of this possibility, and use a position which will keep him out of range?
It depends on the grappler–have they trained to deal with this stuff before?
I will say this–most grapplers on the ground will instinctively smother rather than create space, if you try to hit them with something. They know that by smothering you, they can control you better and reduce the damage they might take, while at the same time working to improve their own position or submit you.
I find grappling to be very smelly. I feel like I’ve been gangraped. That aside, it can be very educational etc. There are some differences in the language though. My friend says they “spar” every class. He has never actually sparred by my definition, but it’s all good
Originally posted by ged
[B]ironfist (or anyone else), can i ask jun_erh’s question again?
ive never grappled at all so yeah. when someone is grappling with you, can you go all-out with punches and elbows? or will the grappler be aware of this possibility, and use a position which will keep him out of range? [/B]
I guess. I’ve never really gone all out grappling with punches and stuff before. But he gave me pointers like “keep your head down here or you’ll get knocked out” and stuff. We messed around with strikes a little bit, and I did get off a pak da while he was in the mount, but punching against gravity is hard work
First I’ll learn grappling, then I’ll incorporate it with striking.
GED…it takes getting use to dealing with a grappler takedown attempt but once u learn how to sprawl and brawl…u have a very good chance to employ your arsenals. Just CROSSTRAIN.
One time i had a dream. It was on a open area, some grappler tried to takedown some guy (dont remember if was a kid or not) and he sprawled everytime, didnt go down not even once.
Then when i look again its me doing that same thing versus the grappler guy. Doesnt have a point really but that was pretty cool, only in reality id sprawl AND beat the crap outa the sucka.
i’m learning how to sprawl against a takedown, but there’s nothing at my level to actually use if you stuff it up and get taken down (there is at the next level). i definitely plan to crosstrain, when i have the time and money - ive stopped kung fu for a month because of exams.
so if you try to hit a grappler (when on the ground), he’ll smother and work to submit you? ****, i was hoping he’d lie there nicely and take hits. elbows of any use? hey, here’s an idea - i’ll go find out for myself, hehe. might find a BJJ school and go in take a look after exams.
