From what I heard, The Lau Gar Kuen set is actually a Mok Gar set that Lam Jo learned from a friend with the surname Lau. That as well as the single ended staff set. Probably during the 1950’s.
Peace.
old thread is very old.
old or not it still didnt say the way it was…
anyway,CLF NOLE…the cantonese name was Lau bo sing
[QUOTE=Pork Chop;794129]Talk about necro-post…
yah umm i was the first response…
man we were dumb back then. LOL
but the female situation’s not too different.
the whole lau gar thing i’d actually heard in a kung fu school at some point; sorry if i was spreadin mis-info.[/QUOTE]
LOL, then you probably like my signiture. LOL. I think we all are guilty of that.
[QUOTE=banditshaw;794140]From what I heard, The Lau Gar Kuen set is actually a Mok Gar set that Lam Jo learned from a friend with the surname Lau. That as well as the single ended staff set. Probably during the 1950’s.
Peace.[/QUOTE]
THis may be accurate, but in my version I heard he created the set based on stuff he learned from his friend. Too bad we are too removed to simply ask the question to the correct person. Lots of these little ideas and conjecture are so easy to clarify. LOL.
For what it’s worth, I have seen Mok Gar once and not sure how representiive it was. But I didn’t see the flavor that I see in Lau Gar. To me, this form appears much more hung than the Mok I saw. As we know, many parts of the Lau Gar Kuen are compatible with or straight out of Gung Gee.
[QUOTE=southernkf;794187]THis may be accurate, but in my version I heard he created the set based on stuff he learned from his friend. Too bad we are too removed to simply ask the question to the correct person. Lots of these little ideas and conjecture are so easy to clarify. LOL.
For what it’s worth, I have seen Mok Gar once and not sure how representiive it was. But I didn’t see the flavor that I see in Lau Gar. To me, this form appears much more hung than the Mok I saw. As we know, many parts of the Lau Gar Kuen are compatible with or straight out of Gung Gee.[/QUOTE]
I definetly agree with that. Most likely the set was “Hung a fied” from the original.
[QUOTE=southernkf;794187]THis may be accurate, but in my version I heard he created the set based on stuff he learned from his friend. Too bad we are too removed to simply ask the question to the correct person. Lots of these little ideas and conjecture are so easy to clarify. LOL.
For what it’s worth, I have seen Mok Gar once and not sure how representiive it was. But I didn’t see the flavor that I see in Lau Gar. To me, this form appears much more hung than the Mok I saw. As we know, many parts of the Lau Gar Kuen are compatible with or straight out of Gung Gee.[/QUOTE]
i have asked, and i confirm what bandishaw wrote. today, it it is definitely Hung Kyun, not Mok ga. anyway, Mok ga is fmaous for its kicking techniques, most of the kicks in Hung Kyun come form Mok ga, and it is not coincidence that this relatively short set has most kicks of all Hung kyun sets (liu yam geuk, chaang geuk)
staying on topic anyone?
illusion,
gordon liu (liu chia huey) received his training from his foster brother, liu chia liang.
liu chia liang was taught by his father liu chan si dai gung, who was a very renonwned hung gar player in hong kong.
liu chan was taught by the great lam tsai wing
liu chia liang was also a director of chinese hong kong movies at the time.
regards
actually gordon liu studied with lau kar leungs father with lau kar lung and his brother lau kar wing(awesome fights between kar wing and sammo hung in the odd couple) there actually not foster brothers just kung fu brothers gordon took the last name after he became the elder lau’s disciple.
[QUOTE=PM;794243]i have asked, and i confirm what bandishaw wrote. today, it it is definitely Hung Kyun, not Mok ga. anyway, Mok ga is fmaous for its kicking techniques, most of the kicks in Hung Kyun come form Mok ga, and it is not coincidence that this relatively short set has most kicks of all Hung kyun sets (liu yam geuk, chaang geuk)[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the confirmations. What do you mean when you say most of the kicks come from Mok Kar? Does this mean that Hung Gar had an early connection to Mok Gar like other arts like Lama Pai? Or do you mean Lam Jo’s Hung Gar was heavily influenced by Mok Gar?
Thanks for you info!
[QUOTE=doug maverick;794281]actually gordon liu studied with lau kar leungs father with lau kar lung and his brother lau kar wing(awesome fights between kar wing and sammo hung in the odd couple) there actually not foster brothers just kung fu brothers gordon took the last name after he became the elder lau’s disciple.[/QUOTE]
He took the name on because he followed LKL in the film business…this was suggestet by the mother of LKL.Before the mother already called him son cos she liked him so much…Kar Fei was also allowed to wear the traditional clothes ,thats normally only allowed to real family members, at her funeral…
Does he teach?
not really…occasionly but not as having a school and regular students.
lau kar bo
yea i heard that one too. but you know they always tell so many different stories i just went with the above because i heard it alot. but thanks
[QUOTE=doug maverick;794358]yea i heard that one too. but you know they always tell so many different stories i just went with the above because i heard it alot. but thanks[/QUOTE]
its just small details..
you are right about the many stories..since kar fei is my sibak and LKL my sigung
I see them once in a while so I just tell what they tell me…
I got from forum member PM a 8 pages strong chinese written article about Lau Jaam once we got this translated this will be published in the net…this is very interesting too…
i did not say that Lam Jou’s gungfu is heavily influenced by Mok Ga.
Hung Kyun is influenced by Mok Ga since the time of Wong Feihung, as well as other southern systems - Choi Ga, Fat Ga, CLF…
all the best
[QUOTE=PM;794418]i did not say that Lam Jou’s gungfu is heavily influenced by Mok Ga.
Hung Kyun is influenced by Mok Ga since the time of Wong Feihung, as well as other southern systems - Choi Ga, Fat Ga, CLF…
all the best[/QUOTE]
Sorry, I was just clarifying. Hung Kuen has had a lot of influences over the years. I did not understand the Mok Gar influence. The only connection I was aware of was through the Lau Gar form, so I just wanted to clarify if this is what you meant, or if you meant the connection went further back. Thanks for the clarification.