Recently I’ve been looking for a job to earn some money for college. I want 12 hour shifts and to work graveyard shifts. So I went to the local gas station and filled out an application. I think they are going to send me to some random Shell station if I get the job. This led me to think about disarming a gun. I haven’t really practiced many drills dealing with gun disarming. I know that alot of it depends on the situation, if a robber is pointing the gun at me with the gun near his hip and not in my face then I know not to try anything because he has a safe distance. Luckily my instructors put huge emphasis on reality training and Tony Blauer type stuff. I will talk to them about how/when to attempt a disarm. What do you all think? I wouldnt risk my life to protect a few hundred dollars of someone else’s money or to become a hero. I would only consider attempting a disarm if that would be the safest option to take. But its probably one of those things that you don’t know exactly what you’re going to do until it happens. But I figure that asking good martial artists such as yourselves would benefit me. So please tell me your thoughts I’d appreciate it greatly.
gun disarms
even the most proficient martial artists won’t try to disarm someone with a gun unless their intent is clearly to kill you… if they wanna rob the place, let them. it’s dangerous in the extreme to attempt to disarm someone with a firearm. if they want to kill you, well… what do you have to lose at that point? 
i think i’ll always honor my sifu’s words on this subject. not an exact quote but close enough .. .
if someone picks a fight with you that you can’t avoid beat them down. hurt them bad enough to think twice about coming at you again.
if someone comes at you with a weapon put them in the hospital or kill them. never give someone the chance to come at you with a weapon a second time.
if someone comes at you with a gun… .
cooperate. it’s a fu cking gun.
Hi.
Even before you consider disarming a Guy, listen to this story:
One Gas Station attendant was held up with a Gun, he somehow took the Gun of the Guy and managed to control him until the police arrived.
Next Day his Boss arrived and fired him for NOT observing company Policy, that states he must hand over the Money in the Cash Register in case of a holdup.
His Lawsuit against the Company for unfair dismissal was thrown out of court.
Strange but true.
Peace.
I’ve worked at a gas station before, and I took my gun to work with me. I never got a chance to shoot a robber, but I thought about shooting that stupid lotto machine many a time.
Anyway, if you start working at a gas station, it would be better for you to just give the guy what he wants than to try to be a hero. Are you willing to die for money that belongs to a company willing to give it up to a robber?
Think about it.
Would you seriously value at most a couple hundred dollars, thats not even yours over the very possible chance of death?!?!. Dude just give up the $$$
red_fists
That post has seriously scared me!
How typical is that, you go to the trouble of stopping an armed robber and your work turns around and fires you:mad:
This should be a lesson in why NOT to work for a service station more than anything else:rolleyes:
Although ill freely admit, if someone had tried to rob me at my old work i would have given them the cash if they had a bread and butter knife, thats becouse i never liked the place but thats another story;)
GDA’s was pretty funny to:D
Hi Jon.
The Companies point of view was as follows:
“We value our Empoyees safety more than a few hundred Dollars.”
I guess they were just trying to cover their backsides in case an Employee gets injured while trying to prevent a holdup.
BTW, I read that story in an US Newspaper about 2 yrs back.
Seeya.
I wouldn’t even think about trying to disarm someone with a gun unless I thought they were going to kill me with it very soon.
Please Don’t
In five years of the Army I was never trained once to disarm a gun from someone, I guess they figured that the only way I would get that close to a gun wielding bad guy is when they step over my corpse. There is only one idea I can think of on how to defend against a gun and that is to quickly sh#t in your hand and threaten to throw it at him if he shoots you, that should get him out of there. And listen to GDA’s sifu’s advice sounds like one smart man.
‘Money’, is only paper. Your wallet is only cow-skin, your new sneakers or your expensive jacket is only materialistic. What is your life made of?
If you read his post he already stated that he wouldn’t risk his life for someone else’s money.
You keep on saying only try to disarm if they are going to kill you, but how would you know. Even if you give the loot up someone still holds your life in their hands. I know of many cases where robbers shot people just for kicks. I’d say dont make a habit of it, but if the robber is stupid enough and the opportunity arises go for it. Just make sure you time it or your dead. People may flame me for this but there are certain positions… that would be in your favor. Anyways if you have something to lose, give em the money and hope he doesn’t shoot you as an afterthought.
Leonidas
Hmmm listen to a person named ‘Leonidas’ didn’t he lead 300 Spartans agains 100 000 persians or something at the battle of Thermopalye. He died right? 
Yep. But he helped save Greece so it was worth it. A true hero.
heh heh
Will it be worth it for the Gas Station?
Maybe they’ll put a plague there
‘Stranger passing by, here BiNKy lies, true to his word protecting the frozen hamburgers’
No not for a gas station. My life is important. I guess you just gotta over the fear of death thing, since your taking a chance and trying to take your life back from said robbers hands. Its a gamble either way. Thats just the gamble i would (possibly) make. I advise you just give the money up since i wouldn’t want to give someone advice that might get them killed and ridiculed as an idiot.
heroes are always dead
well, if someone tried to rob me with a gun what would i do?:
- cack my pants
- try not to squirm too much otherwise i would make a mess…
seriously: if someone tries to rob me with a weapon (it’s happened before - not a gun thankfully) then what do i do? give the guy what he wants. getting stabbed or shot isn’t worth it! It’s not your money, so be safe. Maybe you have a gf or a family to think of - i’d rather be with them…But if it’s obvious that i’m going to die then i would sure as hell try something!
mainly i would just **** my pants though!
david
I’ve had a P38 with the hammer back pressed to my temple. I smiled, gave up my stuff and asked if that were all.
I’ve also trained the fairburn technique of evading a pistol to the chest. It works rather well. I’ve been able to do two man practice with a .22 loaded with blanks and haven’t been “shot” yet. Would I use it on the street? If I thought my assailant was more interested in my money I would give it to them. If I thought they were more interested in pulling the trigger, I would go for it.
I got pistol whipped this one time while being held up. At least thats all they did. I got dropped by this huge guy once before while being held up by a knife, because I didn’t have any money. I also had a really polite robber hold me up once. Now that was weird. He asked for my wallet, I gave it to him. Asked if he could just take the money and leave the wallet, he agreed, he even said" Thank You" before he ran off!