Xue Pei
Hi, are you one of Sifu Han’s students? Where are you based?
Hi joedoe,
Yep..Kim Han is my Shifu.I’m based in Hertfordshire, but travel up to the class in Harrow.
Did you attend the conference in Malaysia last November??I’m not sure if there is one planned for China this year??
there will be one in november as i was told…
Originally posted by Xue Pei
[B]Hi joedoe,
Yep..Kim Han is my Shifu.I’m based in Hertfordshire, but travel up to the class in Harrow.
Did you attend the conference in Malaysia last November??I’m not sure if there is one planned for China this year?? [/B]
No, unfortunately I could not make it to last year’s conference. I really wanted to because I wanted to pay respects at Master Chee’s grave but work was not permitting :(. Maybe next year (I won’t make this year’s one either unfortunately).
How is Sifu Han?
Ngo Cho update
Hi guys,
I’m Sifu Belida Han Uckun (Billy) I think ben cash my old class mate is on this thread. I just got my certification from Bonifacio Lim a year ago as a black sash in the art and am helping him organize the material as a modern federated martial art. Unlike the past we are going to have ranks, open acess regadrless of race and ethnicity. A structured non preferential treatment type of organization. I’m going to pubish articles in 2004 on ngo Cho Kune in Black Belt, Inside kung and this magazine as well.
Ngo Cho Will proably take a lot of people by surprise it is the most interesting combination of internal, external, short long and difficult vs acessible material I’ve seen and I’m swearing to dedicate time to popularizing the art and making it grow.
Sifu Belida Han Uckun
Re: Ngo Cho update
Originally posted by Sifuuckun
Hi guys,
I’m Sifu Belida Han Uckun (Billy) I think ben cash my old class mate is on this thread. I just got my certification from Bonifacio Lim a year ago as a black sash in the art and am helping him organize the material as a modern federated martial art. Unlike the past we are going to have ranks, open acess regadrless of race and ethnicity. A structured non preferential treatment type of organization. I’m going to pubish articles in 2004 on ngo Cho Kune in Black Belt, Inside kung and this magazine as well.
Ngo Cho Will proably take a lot of people by surprise it is the most interesting combination of internal, external, short long and difficult vs acessible material I’ve seen and I’m swearing to dedicate time to popularizing the art and making it grow.
Sifu Belida Han Uckun
Best of luck. I’ll keep an eye out for your articles 
joedoe: there are no OZ folks in shaolin this year…u guys are quite busy this year i suppose…looking forward to meet u in the flesh 
Yeah, none of us could get away for the conference this year. I think we may be planning a big group next year though. Look forward to seeing you there.
Hi Joedoe !
Good 2 see you, any idea what happen to budoogeeks forum ?
Hey Serge, good to see you on KFM. I don’t know what is happening with BudoGeeks. I am wondering if it shut down because not enough people visited.
Please pass on my respects to your sifu.
Originally posted by pitbull
can u please trace the lineage of boni lim? he might as well came from manila if im not mistaken…we may have trained from the same master…
He is one of the last student of late Tan Ka Hong and he is sihing to Alex Co. You can find him in Alex Co’s book. He is Beng Kiam and currently teaching in New Jersey.
Going to KL in Malaysia next sat
Hi, this is the first time ever that I´m writing on a forum
Im going to KL in Malaysia, with my sifu next saturday, to train 5 ancesters.
I´m staying there for about 1 month and I´m going to train morning and evening everyday, seniortraning is on sundays so I hope I get to train some catching hands then
My sifu is gonna cal YCH also and he´s probebly there for a while at the same time so I´ll try to train a litte with him also.
I just want to ask u guy´s if it´s something special u want me to ask when I´m there?
I´m no blackbelt i theory so don´t ask any history questions or something :-), I´ve just been training like crazy for a while
Please email the questions, if any, because it´s not so often I´m on this forum.
kind regards
/R
Ngo Cho Kune
I don’t know if anyone here does Ngo Cho Kune, but I have a question.
A couple years ago I read an article by (I believe) Jose Paman. I seem to recall that he mentioned the book “Go Cho Kune” by Jose Chua and stated that the form shown in this book was incorrectly called “Sanchin” or Sam Chien. He then said what the correct name was for the form in this book. Does anyone know what it was? I don’t have access to this article anymore and don’t remember the name of the form.
Thanks in advance for any assistance.
Re: Ngo Cho Kune
Originally posted by cerebus
[B]I don’t know if anyone here does Ngo Cho Kune, but I have a question.
A couple years ago I read an article by (I believe) Jose Paman. I seem to recall that he mentioned the book “Go Cho Kune” by Jose Chua and stated that the form shown in this book was incorrectly called “Sanchin” or Sam Chien. He then said what the correct name was for the form in this book. Does anyone know what it was? I don’t have access to this article anymore and don’t remember the name of the form.
Thanks in advance for any assistance. [/B]
I practice Ngor Chor Kun. Unfortunately I don’t know the article or the book you mentioned. Can you describe the form?
Hey joedoe. Thanks for responding. I don’t have the book with me right now (I’m at work), but I’ll bring it with me Monday or Tuesday and write out a description of the form.
I had known of this book for awhile but it’s very rare and hard to find, so I was pleased to recently obtain two copies of it. For many years, since the 70s, it was the ONLY book on this art in English (so I’ve been told). Now there’s an excellent book by Alexander (or Alexandre?) Co titled “Five Ancestor Fist” published by Tuttle.
The form in Chua’s book is much more active and has many more techniques than the Sam Chien form as pictured in Co’s book.
I’ll get back to you with a description of the form tomorrow or the next day. Thanks again! T.
Originally posted by cerebus
[B]Hey joedoe. Thanks for responding. I don’t have the book with me right now (I’m at work), but I’ll bring it with me Monday or Tuesday and write out a description of the form.
I had known of this book for awhile but it’s very rare and hard to find, so I was pleased to recently obtain two copies of it. For many years, since the 70s, it was the ONLY book on this art in English (so I’ve been told). Now there’s an excellent book by Alexander (or Alexandre?) Co titled “Five Ancestor Fist” published by Tuttle.
The form in Chua’s book is much more active and has many more techniques than the Sam Chien form as pictured in Co’s book.
I’ll get back to you with a description of the form tomorrow or the next day. Thanks again! T. [/B]
No worries. I must warn you that I train under a different lineage to Mr Co, and I do not know anything about the other two authors you have mentioned, however I will try to help if I can. Feel free to PM me if you have any other questions about NCK
I have the same book, and the form is almost the same as one we have in South Tai Tzu called San Zhen.
Which book are you referring to RD? The one by Co or the one by Chua?
Okay, let’s see if I can descibe this form properly. I guess I’ll just type the descriptions under the photos.
From starting position bring hands low to the front with palms facing each other and open the legs to a horse stance (toes-in stance is pictured). Bring right foot back and pivot to right and step forward with left foot into ready position.
Bring hands to a “prayer” position and execute a right front thrust kick. From kick position step right foot back ending in a left front stance and swing left hand back low and right hand across chest.
Simultaneously step back with left foot into back stance and execute a twin open palm elbow break defense ( this photo shows him in a back stance with both arms extended in front of him, right hand palm down over his left hand palm up).
Pivot to left on left foot and simultaneously bring both fists palm up on either side of the chest. From toes-in horse stance execute twin open-palm downward block then high double crane hand block (in photo both hands held in a “swordhand”-looking form each blocking outward with palms downward as if breaking a double-hand throat grab).
Execute a forward double palm strike by making a circular motion while the strike is being performed. Bring right fist to side of chest (“chambered” position) and follow with a left open palm across the body.Push both hands straight forward with right fist over left palm (both are palms-up).
Bring both hands up and bring them to the sides of the chest (“chambered” position) then execute a forward double open palm strike.
Step forward with right foot and execute a left open palm strike and simultaneously bring the open right hand back to the side of the chest. Immediately execute a forward vertical finger thrust strike. Step forward with left foot and draw the left hand across the body to the right shoulder.
Execute a downward block with the open left hand. Immediately execute a left eagle block (looks kinda like a Karate knifehand block but the hand is ****ed outward more). Step forward with the right foot and execute a right vertical fist punch.
Execute a left vertical fist punch, execute a right vertical fist punch. Execute a right middle block by bringing the blocking arm down and out in a semi-circular direction (his right forearm is at his right side, parallel to the floor. The fist is palm up).
Turn to the left and simultaneously execute an eagle block (same type of “eagle” block as before) with the left hand. Step forward with the right foot and execute a right uppercut punch.
Jump up by springing off the right leg and raise the left arm. Drop down to the floor in Kuai Ma position (left knee on the floor) while executing a left downward open hand block. Rise from the floor while ****ing the right fist beside the right ear and stepping forward with the right foot.
Execute a right inward block, Execute a right downward block, then a right outward block.
Execute a left forward open palm strike. pivot 90 dgrees to the left while bringing left hand across the chest (now you’re facing to the rear of the direction you were facing at the begining of the form).In left forward stance execute left crane block (looks like the same thing that was earlier called an “eagle” block to me). Step forward right and execute right vertical fist punch.
Execute left vertical fist punch, then another right vertical fist punch.
Anyway, there’s more to it but I can’t keep typing. Hope that’s enough to help you identify it. The books also contains a two-person form that looks like the same techniques.
Thanks! T.
TTT