James-
Some biu motions do some of the functions you are calling chuen.
IMO. Good night folks.
Yes Joy, that may be true…I’ve seen footage from some different lineages of WC when performing the Bil Gee and executing a movement similar to Chuen sao..
James
My ‘favorite’ two person ‘drill’?
I would have to say mixing poon sau, lop sau, etc. into a ‘live’ but not sparring free-for-all chi sau event.
…oh, wait, that would be chi sau.
Also, weapons sparring.
Hehehe…
thanks AmanuJRY!
Thanks James, I know the one… my sifu just called it ‘threading hand’… and taught it more as a variation on biu jee than a separate tech.
Hello,
James/Joy:
I’m not sure but I think Chuen Sao is unique to TWC, but I could be wrong so know one quote me. Basically it translates as “Threading Arm”,
Some biu motions do some of the functions you are calling chuen.
IMO. Good night folks.
What TWC calls Chuen Sao is more similar to the a typical usage of Biu as Joy pointed out. Its basically a Biu Sao used as a replacement hand more so rather than Chuen Kiu. Chuen and Biu are different skills!
Chuen Kiu is a common move in Leung Jan’s WCK. The term “threading” is correct and it is a fairly good description of how the movement actually travels. While in San Jose I watched Hendrik also do the same Chuen Kiu skill.
Recenlty I was checking out some footage of the YKS and Mai Gei Wong Jong set and can see a lot of Chuen in their form even if they may not call it that. I am not sure what their term is for that skill. Yip Man’s Jong set also has Chuen Kiu in it but I dont think thats the term for it.
Hope this helps!
Gotta run!
Mat wrote:
Does that stop you developing favourite patterns of activity?
**I don’t do drills for their own sake, and I avoid “patterns” (though they are useful when beginning).
It wasn’t supposed to be a ****ing ‘issue’!
**It’s what is behind the question.
My apologies, even with all of my study of zen I didn’t realize it was part of the remit of martial arts practice to become completely personality-free and anal.
**Ah, OK.
Quite apart from which, if you don’t want to answer don’t answer!
**I gave an answer . . . just not one that you wanted, apparently.
I started this thread as a bit of a light antidote to all the usual bickering crap…
**Oh, thanks for your concern. Isn’t that sweet?
So, Terence, can I take it you don’t have any favourite drills?
**OK, here’s my favorite drill: asking challenging questions.
Originally posted by t_niehoff
**OK, here’s my favorite drill: asking challenging questions.
Terence.
There are at least two interpretations of the word “challenging”. Your questions seem to be more in the sense of “taking exception” to other people’s positions as opposed to the more constructive attempts to “stimulating more in depth discussion”.
Originally posted by t_niehoff
**It’s what is behind the question.
There was nothing behind the question. I’m fairly straightforward, I don’t like ****ing about.
**OK, here’s my favorite drill: asking challenging questions.
You’re not very good at it. I don’t feel challenged at all. In fact it was a predictible response. Work harder.
**I don’t do drills for their own sake, and I avoid “patterns” (though they are useful when beginning).
So you never practice even SLT even when you don’t particularly want to… every time you practice it you do it out of a deep feeling of meaning…? Actually, I don’t really care.
Originally posted by sihing
[B]Mat,
I’m not sure but I think Chuen Sao is unique to TWC…James [/B]
Well, my first school’s teacher (Samuel Kwok’s) gave it just as Threading Arm, but I’m pretty sure my partner from Victor Kan’s school gives it as Chuen Sao.