Dream that I mentioned a while ago (kinda kung fu related )

…if you believe in reincarnation :smiley:

Okay, this was a strange dream that I had when I was around 18 years old. I’m not saying it is a past life dream and I’m not saying it is not.
Might just have been a dream, but since I mentioned this to prana a while back, I figured I’d tell you about it while I had time. I think I actually mentioned this dream a long time ago.
I’m not sure.

Before I begin I wanted to describe the feel of the dream. The dreaming essence wasn’t really there, things were not symbolic, nore did they get thrown together choppily, or move from one thing to the other quickly.
This dream was extremely bizarre in the way it felt in that I was “awake” within the dream. I’ll try to explain.

My dream.
“I” was serving as a knight to a king and castle somewhere in Europe. I remember my face. It was not “me” physically. It was the face of another man. He was thinner, and had a thin beard I think. Yet I saw through his eyes.
I was no one special. There were many guards and knights affiliated with the castle. I was just one of many. The King I didn’t see too much except for special occasions and dinners that took place on long tables with many knights and other people around him. I remember distinctly though a “first knight” figure. He was a huge man, with a black beard, and had animal fur attatched to his armor. Very gruff individual. He was my superior. The strange thing about this dream was the castle itself. It was nothing like you see in the movies. The castle was very dark, had very little light, and was also cold and damp. Water would sometimes leak in through the crevices, etc. I remember walking in a hallway lit by candles, but the room smelled of wet stone, etc.
On a certain day, the knights (or someone) brought in a woman with black hair to work as a cook and servant for the castle. I cannot remember the girl’s face, but can only remember that she had long black hair, and sometimes wore dark clothing as well. I didn’t think much of her at the time.
Then one day, during dinner with the other knights, I noticed that she was serving us food, drink, etc. Some of the knights treated her rather rougly, grabbing onto her rear, and making remarks to her as well. (the very strangest thing about this dream was this…even though I could understand all that was being said and done…I do not think the language in the dream was English!)
The servant girl did not like being touched, and was always trying to avoid their assaults. I never did anything to her, but I never stopped it either. I just observed, wondering why the knights did such things in the first place.
(This is very unlike me)
I met the young servant girl once in a hallway, and I briefly talked to her. She felt a bit more safe with me than the others, and actually hit it off quite well. The only problem was a class difference, I was not supposed to really converse with her since she was a lower person. I would be “offending the castle and king” or something if I did.
However despite that, I began seeing more of her, starting a friendship behind the backs of the other knighs.
Soon, the two of us fell in love (shut up its what really happened) and started an affair without the castle’s knowledge or consent. We would see each other every night in secret, and I would at times go to her room at the top of one of the towers. It was a dark room with carpets if I can remember right.
Somehow rumors began to be spread, and the knights were talking about what was going on amongst themselves.
when this found its way to my superior’s ears (the big guy with the black beard) he became irrate at what I had done.
I was “bringing dishonor” to the castle and king and was lowering myself and wasn’t worthy of being a knight, etc.
He grew so angry that he raced up the stairs to her room in order to destroy our relationship (he was going to rape her) I charged after him with the other knights all looking up at us as we ran.
When I broke into her room, the big knight was standing there in front of her, and she was on the floor trying to shield her face. I blocked her from him, and pulled my sword out to at least halt him. This made him extremely angry, and he pulled his sword out as well. The black-haired girl held onto me telling me to let him do what he wanted so I wouldn’t get hurt. But I would not hear of it, and the big knight and I began to fight. I remember the fight actually pretty well.
I was very much outclassed, but was doing well against him. I hit his sword a couple times, but then missed him with a strike. I remember clearly that my blade missed and he retaliated with a strike of his own. The momentum of my strike carried me too far forward and as I looked up I could see the steel of his sword coming down at my face. Then it hit me, and everything went black!
That’s the moment I woke up in a cold sweat and breathing heavy.

Now this is a very true story. It’s a true dream. :slight_smile:
I don’t know what it meant, it could just be nothing but hell it was the strangest and best I ever had.

Give me you opinions guys. Both mystical and scientific.
Share some of your dreams too if you like
Prana, hope you read this.

Ryu

Rimpleback Pumpernickle Kez Kez Vuy Tranh Yanagasawa Fujikage Fistibuns…
the lost son of the Fistibuns clan…

“One who takes pride in shallow knowledge or understanding is like a monkey who delights in adorning itself with garbage.”

Damn…now I have to read this whole thing…I will reply when I am finished…

IXIJoe KaveyIXI
I am Sharky’s main man…

Yup,You told us before…I remember.

Right when you said something about the castle I knew it…

IXIJoe KaveyIXI
I am Sharky’s main man…

Did I say it before? I thought I had actually. :slight_smile:
Prana asked me to post about it so I did.
Well hmmm.

Ryu

Rimpleback Pumpernickle Kez Kez Vuy Tranh Yanagasawa Fujikage Fistibuns…
the lost son of the Fistibuns clan…

“One who takes pride in shallow knowledge or understanding is like a monkey who delights in adorning itself with garbage.”

I didn’t think it was wrong for a knight to shag a serving girl. In fact I thought it was done all the time.

I am not so sure it was a past life thing. The best way is to talk to a historian I guess, but there seems to be too many inconsistencies in certain points of the story. I thought servants quarters were usually in the lower areas of the castle, not in the towers (I may be wrong). And as I said, knights often shagged around with the hired help.

I actually think the dream is to do with you dealing with some aspect of yourself. Dreams in which you die often signify your soul dealing with some negative aspect. It can be a good thing - scary as it can be.

Maybe it is to do with your protectiveness. You seem to have a highly developed protective instinct. As noble as that protectiveness is, it may not be completely healthy. Sometimes you have to let people get hurt so that they can learn their own lessons.

Dunno. I am probably talking out of my arse.

cxxx:::::::::::>
You’re fu(king up my chi

Be a good movie!

IXIJoe KaveyIXI
I am Sharky’s main man…

Past lives? Interesting, but…who cares. I am here, it is now.

However, I have been reading up on some Taoist classics and they recoment illuminating the “lower soul” to achieve true brighteness, the evil soul, the subcontious, and dream work and stories and just the tool. So if it was a past life, of something in your “lower soul” its good to dive in the black muck and find all the finian Salmon you can, and be the wiser for it.

BTW Those of you who read “the way of the peacefull warrior” may better know me as “JOY” love ya

Carpe Diem.

get cho ass to a junian analyst.

Everyone in the Dream is you. Your getting in touch with your feminine, thats great, in the dreary highly structured “self” and into the ole subcontious.

You a very moral person that has a very very strong ethical sense, one associated with masculity and bushido and courtly love. In spite of these ideals, you come together with the part of you that dwells in the dreary, the untouchable pariah female. These parts are coming together, everything that rises must converge, congrats :smiley:

Carpe Diem.

…if you believe in reincarnation
Okay, this was a strange dream that I had when I was around 18 years old. I’m not saying it is a past life dream and I’m not saying it is not.
Might just have been a dream, but since I mentioned this to prana a while back, I figured I’d tell you about it while I had time. I think I actually mentioned this dream a long time ago.
I’m not sure.

Before I begin I wanted to describe the feel of the dream. The dreaming essence wasn’t really there, things were not symbolic, nore did they get thrown together choppily, or move from one thing to the other quickly.
This dream was extremely bizarre in the way it felt in that I was “awake” within the dream. I’ll try to explain.

My dream.
“I” was serving as a knight to a king and castle somewhere in Europe. I remember my face. It was not “me” physically. It was the face of another man. He was thinner, and had a thin beard I think. Yet I saw through his eyes.
I was no one special. There were many guards and knights affiliated with the castle. I was just one of many. The King I didn’t see too much except for special occasions and dinners that took place on long tables with many knights and other people around him. I remember distinctly though a “first knight” figure. He was a huge man, with a black beard, and had animal fur attatched to his armor. Very gruff individual. He was my superior. The strange thing about this dream was the castle itself. It was nothing like you see in the movies. The castle was very dark, had very little light, and was also cold and damp. Water would sometimes leak in through the crevices, etc. I remember walking in a hallway lit by candles, but the room smelled of wet stone, etc.
On a certain day, the knights (or someone) brought in a woman with black hair to work as a cook and servant for the castle. I cannot remember the girl’s face, but can only remember that she had long black hair, and sometimes wore dark clothing as well. I didn’t think much of her at the time.
Then one day, during dinner with the other knights, I noticed that she was serving us food, drink, etc. Some of the knights treated her rather rougly, grabbing onto her rear, and making remarks to her as well. (the very strangest thing about this dream was this…even though I could understand all that was being said and done…I do not think the language in the dream was English!)
The servant girl did not like being touched, and was always trying to avoid their assaults. I never did anything to her, but I never stopped it either. I just observed, wondering why the knights did such things in the first place.
(This is very unlike me)
I met the young servant girl once in a hallway, and I briefly talked to her. She felt a bit more safe with me than the others, and actually hit it off quite well. The only problem was a class difference, I was not supposed to really converse with her since she was a lower person. I would be “offending the castle and king” or something if I did.
However despite that, I began seeing more of her, starting a friendship behind the backs of the other knighs.
Soon, the two of us fell in love (shut up its what really happened) and started an affair without the castle’s knowledge or consent. We would see each other every night in secret, and I would at times go to her room at the top of one of the towers. It was a dark room with carpets if I can remember right.
Somehow rumors began to be spread, and the knights were talking about what was going on amongst themselves.
when this found its way to my superior’s ears (the big guy with the black beard) he became irrate at what I had done.
I was “bringing dishonor” to the castle and king and was lowering myself and wasn’t worthy of being a knight, etc.
He grew so angry that he raced up the stairs to her room in order to destroy our relationship (he was going to rape her) I charged after him with the other knights all looking up at us as we ran.
When I broke into her room, the big knight was standing there in front of her, and she was on the floor trying to shield her face. I blocked her from him, and pulled my sword out to at least halt him. This made him extremely angry, and he pulled his sword out as well. The black-haired girl held onto me telling me to let him do what he wanted so I wouldn’t get hurt. But I would not hear of it, and the big knight and I began to fight. I remember the fight actually pretty well.
I was very much outclassed, but was doing well against him. I hit his sword a couple times, but then missed him with a strike. I remember clearly that my blade missed and he retaliated with a strike of his own. The momentum of my strike carried me too far forward and as I looked up I could see the steel of his sword coming down at my face. Then it hit me, and everything went black!
That’s the moment I woke up in a cold sweat and breathing heavy.

Now this is a very true story. It’s a true dream.
I don’t know what it meant, it could just be nothing but hell it was the strangest and best I ever had.

Give me you opinions guys. Both mystical and scientific.
Share some of your dreams too if you like
Prana, hope you read this.

Ryu

Hey, there it is again!!!

[i]Signed,
Rogue, Soke and Senior Grandmaster of Southeast American Brazillian Bagua Combat Chi jitsu Kempo Karate Do and Choral Society.

The only tactical principle which is not subject to change; it is, “To use the means at hand to inflict the maximum amount of wounds, death, and destruction on the enemy in the minimum amount of time." [/i]

Ryu

Those dreams can really shake you up. I’ve had dreams where I’ve woken up and it’s taken all day for me to pull myself together. I had a dream where I died once, and I stood in the presence of God (and yes, I am a Jesus freak) and man, when I woke up I didn’t want to come back. All day I was getting cold shivers & flashbacks to the dream and I was just all f**ked up that I had to come back to this world…dreams can mess with ya.
Enjoy your vivid dreams. They’re better than the movies.

“Forfeit the game
Before somebody else takes you out of the frame
And puts your name to shame
Cover up your face
You can’t run the race
The pace is too fast,
You just won’t last!”

i used to be Rogue in a past life. :slight_smile:

I’ve had “real” dreams too
in fact it’s odd cos in one good one i knew it was a dream but it seemed significant…but the weirdest part was waking up and not seeing a thing, just feeling as if i was about 10 feet behind my body, then snapping back into it…kinda like i was a lock fitting into a key.as soon as i was “back in” i could see again.

no i wasn’t doing drugs
(maybe i should)

___________________________________________________________________________ “I’m just trying to lull you into a genuine sense of security!”

Way to go!! Just remember like more 20 lifes (maybe more maybe less) and you’ll you know you are enlightened, or maybe not…

How come i never have these cool stuff happen to me?


You brake my elbow i put your face in s.hit! HA HA HA, how about that, HA HA!

People usually dream about what they really desire, like dreaming about that hot chick from science class that you wanted to shag so badly but she didn’t notice you. I read something about dreams in DISCOVERY mag. It went something like that.

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I still get creeped out when something happens in the world that happened in the dream time.:eek:

Stacey,

Are you really Joy from Peaceful Warrior? I’m Dan!

Jungian take

Back to a bit of the Jungian view. Anima(female archons) are considered very important to the male psyche. Her character might be the most important in the dream, but I wouldn’t venture as to the meaning of her character myself, as I’ve got no good hunches on that.

The earlier post is correct that in the Jungian view, all the characters are important and represent part of the psyche. However, the focus was on the good knight and the peasant. I think the “evil” knight has an important place in this as well

Hehe, now for my crackpot analysis:

The grissled knight, being as much a part of Ryu as the rest, is in charge. He is concerned with appearances of nobility, and he is the dominant part of the dynamic put forth in the dream.

The good knight, who Ryu takes the view of in the dream, represents one who strives for nobility, but at times does not succeed, or at least views itself as not succeeding. I would think that this part is a great amount of the drive to be noble, as the character is hard on himself for not being noble enough, although the maid rightly sees him as the truly noble part of the entourage.

The maid, well, I hate to be the one to tell you this, Ryu, and I hope you don’t take it to hard, but here’s the deal…

…I’m only telling you this because I care about you, man…

…oh, how to put this…

You clearly prefer men. There’s nothing wrong with that So send me all your beautiful asian girlfriends, because you don’t need them anymore.

Just kidding. I’ve got to get back to writing, so good luck on figuring out your dream, and have a happy holidays.