"They are not techninans. "
Some MMA fighters are extremely proficient technicians. Genki Sudo, Sakuraba, the Shamrocks, Rickson etc. are highly accomplished grappling technicians. Rickson had to defend himself in the street many times.
"Wing Chun is in a totally different class. That is not real combat. For if it was, they would have no rules . Which hurts wing chun a grate deal, with rules they take the fight right away from us. "
Wing Chun can be adapted to the ring. My instructor had a successful kickboxing career with 37 pro and over 100 amateur fights. If someone has problems making WC work in the ring, it is to do with them and not the system. He also had plenty of fights outside the ring, so the sport focus didn’t do him any harm in the pavement arena.
The last WC hero that came to our school looking to put down our system got taken, down choked and armbarred into submission repeatedly by someone who was smaller than and had a decade’s less time training than he.
That said, I’m glad WC’s working for you in your environment. I agree defense is its main focus.
The last WC hero that came to our school looking to put down our system got taken, down choked and armbarred into submission repeatedly by someone who was smaller than and had a decade’s less time training than he.
“To beat a wolf, you got be a wolf.”
Danzel Washington. Training Day.
I feel sorry for that poor sap. Really doe, he didn’t come prepared knowing there was a possibility he would be taken to the floor. Then he is a fool! I have made many people tap out in seconds, but I still think wing chun is very dangerous, and or most Chinese fighting arts; reason: dim mak, all kinds of nerves and pressure points. Iron palm: h*ll self-explanatory. Learning key points of the body (anatomy) it only takes five pounds of pressure to rip off an ear, I can go on and on. And who cares what somebody else’s can do. Where I’m from when you start talking like that, everybody wants see want you can do. Why run to the man next door? I will never say or talk about what someone else’s can do. When I feel man enough to do it myself. Don’t take that personal. Because it’s not, it always has been my personal feelings on how I feel about that situation. What’s the name of that so-called wing chun hero. And who made him the wing chun hero, and what fool would want that name and title “wing chun hero”, I didn’t know we had one, a wing chun hero. But me, I’m only a hero to my children, becaues they said so, and that’s all I care about. Nobody is putting nobody down at all, what I’m saying is that different people have different talents. forgive me.
Ali Hamad Rahim.
detroitwingchun.com
Remember; when a grappler tries to grabs you or even grabs a hold of you, don’t grab them back. If you do, then you are committed to a tussle. Which is counterproductive to the wing chun system, If I had too grab, I would grab the pressure points on a grapplers forearms and neck (Dim Mak). Don’t be a fool and grab someone in a headlock, when you don’t have grappling skills, and when you know he is a grappler. Then you are playing right into our game (a trained grappler).
Ali Hamad Rahim.
detroitwingchun.com
If a guy is trying to grab you he is not trying to hit you- therefore there is, albeit momentarily, a window of oppurtunity for you to hit
him. The trick is to hit him AS he tries to grab you- not before and not after. Easier said that done of course and it will depend on the relative skill levels of the poeple involved i.e. can you defend a takedown better than he can execute one. This has less to do with style and more to do with the individual and how your training is oriented. You wouln’t get a gappler to throw wing chun attacks at you so why get a wing chun guy to throw wrestling attacks at you. There is a big difference between a lame half assed wide armed tackle which you can spot from miles away, and a sudden sharp level drop folowed by a penetrating creeping tackle which can alternate smoothly from one leg to the other as you soon as you withdraw the leg he initially goes for. Still if you know how a technique works you should be able to work out a way to counter it.
You wouln’t get a gappler to throw wing chun attacks at you so why get a wing chun guy to throw wrestling attacks at you. There is a big difference between a lame half assed wide armed tackle which you can spot from miles away,
That is so true. If I wanted too grapple, I would go to a grappler. Not a wing chun person for a fight. What you seen on my web site, was my son giving his best shot to his father, that’s all. Still; I have made grown men cry like babies while tapping out; grapplers that is, because I am one, and do teach the finer points on grappling, I have in the pasted ten years, and will never stop. It don’t make a different to me if they are lame (poor skills) or have talent, if you step to me, here in Detroit, you better have your sh*t together. Some people talk, just too hear themselves talking, I’m 40 years old and still love too bang. Ps. my son is not lame. He is a true trooper and a believer of blood and snot while training. He can handled the punishment. He is now 18 years of age and started training with his dad when he was five. Please don’t take this post personal; I know you didn’t say anything wrong, for it’s just a point that I had to bring up. Cause I love my son so very much. And he is a by-product of his father. I expected and demand nothing but greatness from him, no more or less. For he is his father son and he is being watched and groomed for just that reason. My son have more than twice the training then most of the people on this forum. He is the future of the Woo Fai Ching legacy, take care.
Ali Hamad Rahim.
detroitwingchun.com