Dit Da Jow for Makiwara Training

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[QUOTE=goju;962360]i know some who dont use it and dont report any damage(shrugs) maybe they are lucky but for safetys sake ill give it a go:D

did higaonna sensei say when he began using it? i know he was suppose to have started hitting the makiwara when he was around five i think so he may have had decades under his belt with makiwara training and no type of herbs and if so did he report any damage of his hands from not using jow?Or can dit da jow reverse damage one can get from training?[/QUOTE]

Higaonna didn’t start training until age 14 with his father in Shorin Ryu. He switched to Goju-ryu at age 16. Not sure if he started makiwara first thing, or if he adhered to tradition and did basic conditioning (knuckle push ups, etc) before starting makiwara.

Kanryo Higaonna, also learned herbal remedies while in China and taught those. So I am not really sure if Morio learned them as passed on through his lineage, or if he “rediscovered” it when he started his research. I don’t have an exact date on when Morio started his research to trance the roots of Goju-Ryu or when he started using linaments in his conditioning training.

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Morio Higaonna was already using Jow back in the mid 80’s.

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[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;962537]Morio Higaonna was already using Jow back in the mid 80’s.[/QUOTE]

Correct, here is a clip from the “Way of the Warrior” (BBC Documentary) which was done in the early 80’s. It shows Higaonna using Jow, and makes a comment that he met someone “several years” before that showed him the Jow. So it is safe to assume that Higaonna has been using it since about the mid 70’s at least. So for at least the first 20 yrs of his training (give or take) he did not use it, and the last 30 or so years he has used it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44aMGGHj6Ec&feature=related