And given that you want everything in combinations anyway, no reason why the punch to the bicep can’t be the opening move. Many boxer types jab their way into punching range anyway. Might as well ‘frog’ the arm on the way in.
yeah…… I’m just getting use to the idea that not every strike has to be the home run hit… and hitting him ANYWHERE is better than not hitting him at all… ROCKY lied to me ya’ll…
I don’t know if that’s just his experience, or boxing technique in general.
technique in general…
I train with a guy who boxed in the Army, and he says boxers typically puch at the tricep on their way in to fatigue the opponents arms. I don’t know if that’s just his experience, or boxing technique in general. [/B]
Regardless, it’s cool to hear again. I’m not sure if that’s typical of boxers. But it is smart.
The more I learn about boxing, the more impressed I am with it.
Originally posted by Black Jack
Yeah it is kinda a tool word. I think some people like to say it because it sounds cool to new students.
Yes. Yes it does.
My first guro used to ask me to teach classes occassionally at his satellite school. Then he and the other instructors would make fun of me because the next time they’d go out to the satellite school, all the students would be going on and on about ‘limb destructions’ and ‘defanging the snake.’
I guess it should come as no surprise that I was probably a bit of a **** as a beginning instructor.
What is good about destructions is that they are adaptable to a situation of conflicting force. Not all the time are you going to want to smash the guys nose in. But maybe a rap on the old cannons to sap some of his will away might let him know your serious.
Yeah. Curiously, I consider destructions oddly humane. Sure, it’s not like ‘redirecting’ an aggressor until he… what? Gets bored and leaves? But it could very well eliminate his ability to be aggressive. Without causing permanent trauma.
That’s one of the things I like about the thai round kick to the thigh too. No permanent damage, but it’ll let 'em know who’s boss. And sap his will, as you mentioned.
That and they are good setups. I say like traps don’t go hunting for them but just take them as you get them.
That’s the trick, I think. Using them not as the objective, but the means.
I train with a guy who boxed in the Army, and he says boxers typically puch at the tricep on their way in to fatigue the opponents arms. I don’t know if that’s just his experience, or boxing technique in general. [/B]
I thought a lot of old school and bare knuckle guys did this, especially if they were fighting a bigger opponent. I’ll have to check back on my old history readings to give you non-annecdotal quotes, but there’s a pretty good quote to this effect by the more recent English unlicensed boxer/bare knuckle fighter Billy Cribb on this page.
Jack Johnson was fond of the bicep punch on an incoming strike.
Old school boxing was nasty and full of information. Hand loads, grappling, cross buttock throws, elbows, headbutts, what have ya.
London Prize Ring Rules: (bare knuckle 18th and 19th century rules though they also still had the more rual rough and tumble bouts. In some backwoods states in the south they would have gouging fights in where the players would try to maim the other fighter)
A round ended only when a boxer went down
The fallen fighter then had 30 seconds to “come up to scratch” for the next round
Like the conditioning Thai boxers use, if you can condition your forearms to be hard, then you can use them to strike the incoming limb. Sometimes this can hurt your opponent enough to end the fight.
A good heavy slap to the forearm can have a similar effect.
Elbows are always good. Striking with the knuckles to the back of the fist (i you are good enough to trap the fist and strike it) can also be very painful for the other person.
if i dont feel like fighting, ill hang back and do my best to injure their hands/wrists and ankles/insteps with elbows. I basically just wrap my arm around my head and lean into the punches or place my arm like i am covering my ribs and sink into their kicks. simple stuff and works well.
to train these techniques it is best to work with peaches in your rectum.