Where are all the CLF schools in China? Obviously in Guandong area they have a few, but do anyone know of any other schools around in other areas? Hubei or Hunan perhaps?
my friend studies in Fatsaan Hung Sing Gwun, and he says one of the most senior sifus, sifu of his sifu, is living and teaching in Hunan
Not many people outside of the southern provinces seemed to familiar with Tsai Li Fo when I was in china, aside from the shaolin abbot.
but didn’t Chan Heung Kung, send out his 18 disciples to spread CLF all over southern china and south east asia? where did all those schools go?
thats what I was thinking too chasencharp.
I live in south central china, and NO ONE here knows anything about CLF. Hardly any knows hongquan (they all know huang fei hong and knows his style as nanquan) and after the movie they all know ye wen (yip man) and YC.
Do you know where in Hunan? Changsha is 2 hours by train
I live in south central china,
is that anything like South Central Los Angeles? hahaha
Jeung Hung Sing also had many schools in southern China.
I wish i could have experienced what it was like in days of our elders. Chan Heung had his area on lockdown, Jeung Hung Sing had his area on lockdown and so did Tam Sam in his area. Man, what it must have been like in those days!!!
To bad for china the cultural revolution happened…
[QUOTE=Shaolindynasty;1004530]Not many people outside of the southern provinces seemed to familiar with Tsai Li Fo when I was in china, aside from the shaolin abbot.[/QUOTE]
I’ve noticed that, too.
I’ve spoken to different mainlanders who were at least familiar with the names of commonly heard-of KF styles, who had no idea what Tsai Li Fo/Choy Lee Fut is. They knew about Tanglang (Mantis), Xingyi, Bagua, Taiji, Ying Jow, and maybe Wing Chun due to Bruce Lee. I speak Mandarin (lived in Taiwan 8 years and used to be MUCH better at it), and even when I wrote the characters for CLF and showed it to them, they’d just look puzzled.
I would bet that probably more people outside of mainland China know about CLF than in it.
yeah,
I’ve worn some school t shirts with CLF written in chinese on it, and people asked me if that was my chinese name. Another time I wore a tank top from our school in USA while working out (its hot in wuhan) and the back says Guan xiong Guo shu xie hui (Koon Hung Kuo shu Association) - USA with Tsai Li Fo in the front, and People were confused as F/<k. Some guy who claimed to be a kung fu teacher in the park oposite my house where i go run, had no idea what kuoshu meant and thought it had something to do with some Benevolent association.
People in china dont know much about kung fu. All they know is Taiquandao (TKD), Shaolinquan and san da. They know Nanquan Beitui, but usually non of them knows what it means. They all practice nunchaku (how ever way you spell it) and they all kick like Bruce Lee.
Anyways, Ill find out about Hunan CLF.
@ Eddie, That’s funny because I was talking to a lady in china who knew i practiced Kungfu and she asked what kind and I said Tsai li fo and she looked confused and said “that’s the name of the sifu” so i said “kind of;)”
I found if I said Nanquan or guandong kungfu they understood more
I would bet that probably more people outside of mainland China know about CLF than in it.
I think that’s true. probally due to many of the sifu’s leaving china during the communist takeover and it’s popularity in hong kong.
[QUOTE=Eddie;1004771]yeah,
I’ve worn some school t shirts with CLF written in chinese on it, and people asked me if that was my chinese name. Another time I wore a tank top from our school in USA while working out (its hot in wuhan) and the back says Guan xiong Guo shu xie hui (Koon Hung Kuo shu Association) - USA with Tsai Li Fo in the front, and People were confused as F/<k. Some guy who claimed to be a kung fu teacher in the park oposite my house where i go run, had no idea what kuoshu meant and thought it had something to do with some Benevolent association.
People in china dont know much about kung fu. All they know is Taiquandao (TKD), Shaolinquan and san da. They know Nanquan Beitui, but usually non of them knows what it means. They all practice nunchaku (how ever way you spell it) and they all kick like Bruce Lee.
Anyways, Ill find out about Hunan CLF.[/QUOTE]
alot of ppl in china are not familiar with the term “KUO/GUO Shu”, which means ‘national art’, because that was the term that was used for martial arts, before the communists took over china. which is why in hong kong and taiwan, majority of schools will bear “Kuo/guo shu” in their association name, instead of ‘wu shu’, only a small number of new schools in hong kong will have that name, and use that term.
wu shu is the general term the people’s republic of china calls martial arts. i know i know, wu shu literally means martil art, but if you get what i’m saying, the term is was only widely used because of the communists party changing the name. we like to still call it kung fu, but they love to say wu shu.
hi, i think the reason is most immigrants in usa were from fosan and toisan . also in china its normal to work 12 hour shift most people are too focused on survival. we in noth america are very lucky
yeah. weird. same language, all different ways of using it 
i thought id find kung fu in china, but came all the way and realised there were more schools in johannesburg south africa, than in my city in china
chasingcharpchoy, i was recently offered a job in HK. I would love to take it, but ihave to think about my son right now. He is in chinese school and now pretty fluent in mandarin. Will wait maybe another 2 years before i uproot him again.
whats it like living in HK?
Eddie:
Think New York City with even more people. You could have your son go to an international school as they will speak english and mandarin at most. My nephew goes to one so he can work on both his english and mandarin, while speaking cantonese at home.
Peace.
hehe, yeah, but I havent lived in NY either. Ive been to HK a good few times, but dont know what its like to actually live there.
But for now I need to do the good daddy thing I guess.
[QUOTE=chasincharpchui;1004799]alot of ppl in china are not familiar with the term “KUO/GUO Shu”, which means ‘national art’, because that was the term that was used for martial arts, before the communists took over china. which is why in hong kong and taiwan, majority of schools will bear “Kuo/guo shu” in their association name, instead of ‘wu shu’, only a small number of new schools in hong kong will have that name, and use that term.
wu shu is the general term the people’s republic of china calls martial arts. i know i know, wu shu literally means martil art, but if you get what i’m saying, the term is was only widely used because of the communists party changing the name. we like to still call it kung fu, but they love to say wu shu.[/QUOTE]
I had heard that the term kuo/guo shu (national art, of course) was simply a shortened way of saying “zhong guo wu shu” (Chinese martial arts). It’s very commonly used in Taiwan, where many (most??) of the Nationalists fled to. Although I had seen some businesses set up there that are called “guo shu guans” but which seem to be quack TCM clinics.
[QUOTE=Shaolindynasty;1004718]To bad for china the cultural revolution happened…:([/QUOTE]
Indeed.
30 million people rubbed out in a 10 year frenzy or chaotic redaction.
the result? An entire nation has memory problems.
It will take a century or more before the information can be rebuilt accurately. And only if the corrupted communist government is removed entirely and forever.
Don’t forget that many martial artists, especially teachers and significant adepts were jailed, crippled and put to death by Mao and his henchmen during the dark time of 1966-1976.
This is why you don’t need to go to china to learn kungfu.
[QUOTE=Eddie;1004883]hehe, yeah, but I havent lived in NY either. Ive been to HK a good few times, but dont know what its like to actually live there.
But for now I need to do the good daddy thing I guess.[/QUOTE]
eddie, all depends on how much you have put aside for daily expenses. how much for rent. eating wise, china is extremely affordable compared to hong kong, but i’m use to it so it really doesn’t bother me. everything is opened to super late, public transport is extremely convenient(metro standard). and best of all, clf masters everywhere!
[QUOTE=Jimbo;1005022]I had heard that the term kuo/guo shu (national art, of course) was simply a shortened way of saying “zhong guo wu shu” (Chinese martial arts). It’s very commonly used in Taiwan, where many (most??) of the Nationalists fled to. Although I had seen some businesses set up there that are called “guo shu guans” but which seem to be quack TCM clinics.[/QUOTE]
Yes you are right, its considered a Nationalist term really, its not used in china at all. but i find it interesting, its probably why they chose ‘guo shu’ instead of just using ‘wu shu’ at the time. it could have been to avoid detection by the chinese government aswell, as many kung fu masters fled china to hong kong and taiwan, and set up ‘associations’ there. fear of another boxer rebellion perhaps?