Classmates who misunderstand form

ok, that’s it, first of all, everyone knows that canada has

1.the best martial artists on the planet bar none.(hello… hockey)

2.way better beer than the flavoured water you americans drink (in fact you should be ashamed you even call it beer!)

In fact, you just have Canada envy, admit it. our’s is bigger…and cleaner hahahahaha.

peace

p.s, KC, consider this a “counter-jack” and you have now saved face from hijacking your own thread. (I hear americans are prone to doing stuff like that :smiley: )

People who think they know it all are irritating to those of us that do. Just kiddin.

KC

As they say it is easy to learn but hard to teach. A teachers goal is to take what they have learned from their understanding and convey it to another individual succesfully. This can be very difficult especially when the person wont open up to accepting what it is your are showing them. it is even harder to make a diiferent person move the way you do.
Thats waht teaching is all about for it takes a lot of character to take the time to educate others and the pateince to watch them grow.

I have a mentally slow student in my class that needs an extreme amount of time taken to show him a simple bow stance. He has been with me for 6 months and still has trouble throwing middle punches. He has to be shown every time how to twist the wrist correctly. I asked myself why must I spend so much of class teaching him the same thing over and over. And you know what my self said? becuse thats what makes me a better teacher, anyone can teach someone who is gifted but only a true teacher teaches those who are’nt! that is the sign of character. Take it upon yourself to put him under your wing and show him how to become great…you will love yourself for it.

I always try to just be the student. It is more entertaining for me that way.

Sometimes though - all the baggage I come with can be a hindrance - especially if I am learning something similar to what I already practice. You can catch yourself falling into comfortable patterns rather than identifying whats new. Doesn’t happen all the time, but it does happen.

But I don’t think I’d ever demand that I am right. I know I annoy some of the teachers in a class I am taking because they know I know more, but I keep playing dumb because I really want to understand thier method and doctrine without mixing it with what I already do.

Kind of the opposite thing I guess…

Kung Lek: Danes are the only ones who know how to brew REAL beer.

TUBORG ALL THE WAY!

Hey, what about Belgium???
THE ultimate beer country!! :wink:

Those students that think they know better are a bit annoying. I had one guy telling me how to do a broadsword form, 6 months before he even got to learn the broadsword. I didnt know what to tell the guy, I just gave him an evil glance and he shut up :wink:

Galadriel

I’ve got to teach class again tonight, so we’ll see if I have any difficulties with this student. In his defense, he’s got a decent foundation, he’s just very hesitant to build up that foundation in new ways. I don’t expect too many difficulties, as it’s below freezing right now, so most people probably won’t show, and he has less problems with his ego when fewer people are around.

BTW, nice to meet you, Galadriel. I’m assuming your name is a LOTR reference. Have you seen the movie?(Good god, I’m hijacking my own thread again, even after Kung Lek went to all that trouble of saving face for me! Thanks anyway, Kung Lek, at least you tried.)

Belgium! Canada! America!

The Ultimate Beer Countries?!?!?!

Have you people ever heard of:

[SIZE=4]GREAT BRITAIN![/SIZE]

The country that INVENTED beer, that has produced more varieties of beer than any other. The country that has brought us Old Speccy, Newkie Brown, Whitbread, Bombardier, Joules’s.

If you count Ireland, we’ve got Guinness, Murphy’s, Caffrey’s and many more.

Sometimes… You Yanks… JESUS!!! :smiley:

I thought beer came from Wisconsin?

You know your a good teacher when your students give you $30 cash for Christas!!!

I hope they never find me out!!!:smiley:

Royal Dragon

My teacher just started a new and separate tai chi program, and well I’m the highest-ranking student in the old kung fu class, but I missed some tai chi classes and go a little behind a few people in the tai chi program.

Well some guy was practicing a section of the Tai chi sword form we where doing that I had not gotten to yet, but having seen the instructor just do it I thought I’d correct him alittle, but he didn’t care for that too much.

Funny when we had all just started together and were at the same place they were asking me for help.

Sometimes i think i try to help too much, and should just let them figure it out with time, but on the other hand i’m having to re-learn some stuff because my teacher let me get away with doing it wrong to begin with.

We have one guy right now at the beginners class in capoeira, he has done some kickboxing and it seems his hands are stuck in a boxing position.
Its funny, it seems that he likes capoeira but whenever i tell him to use his hands in the movements he goes like: then im not protected and i will be hit.
Because of this he cannot move good, and ends up reverting to just standing there and being kicked.
I really want to help him, but i think he needs to let go of something within himself.
It s a hard decision to make if you have spendt long time practising something and suddently cant use it.
When i first started out i Xingyi i had to realise that the things that i had spendt years training in another kungfusystem dident work against someone with a correct body structure.
And i was graduated instructor in the other style and was beaten by people who had been training for only a couple of years.
**** that was hard to take, but now im happy that i quit my former school and started from the beginning in Xingyi.

SanHe,

Just a piece of advice. Never correct form that you yourself do not have. Its asking for trouble from fellow students and from your teacher, and the assumption must be made that if the time was used to work on what you do have, you would learn that piece of form sooner and then be the one in need of correction. I’m not meaning to flame, sorry if I come off a little strong, but teaching what you do not know is not helping other students, it is a fundamental error in teaching, for the students must trust that what you are teaching them is something you know intimately. If they later find out you do not know it, you have, by your own actions, eroded the relationship you should be working to build up.

Hi KC elbows, nice to meet you too,
yeah, Galadriel is from LOTR, an old nickname given to me :wink:
Read the book, read it again, and again and seen the movie and going to see it again tomorrow :wink:

Delicate sound

If you count Ireland

IF you count Ireland???
the last time I checked we were a seperate entity to Britain!!

But you still cant beat Belgium for beer though!! Have a look at
http://www.zeusnet.gr/brussels/loplop/
for a look at a variety of the best ones :wink:

Ok, back to the topic,
Another problem that also arises is that some students get quite high in a class even if their forms are total c*** and then you have the situation where they are teaching you. One guy is below me in rank and now and again he is sent to teach the beginners (we’re only a small class so there is no way around it) while sifu teaches the higher ranked students. The beginners then get thought by him and learn the wrong things and it all comes back to me then to “re-teach” them the proper way.
I try telling the guy what to do but he doesnt listen, I wish I could take a video of him and show him what he acutally looks like doing forms and compare it to the way our sifu does it, it might help??? or not :wink:

Galadriel

I say video him!!!

Heck Foot ball tams do it all the time, it’s just patr of training to them, If I had a dollar for every time I saw my daughters gymnastic team sitting around the TV viewing themselvs in the last competition I’d be a rich man. Video is a GREAt tool for learning. Heck I video myself and watch the footage just to be sure I’m as good as I feel. You learn alot about yourself when you do stuff like that, I highly recomend it.

RD

Maybe i should try to get that video that was taken in USA at the competition. Would be cool to see myself fighting, i’m sure at such an beginners level and having watched a LOT of fights on video i’ll see what needs improving :slight_smile:

Since i collect fighting videos it would be cool to own my own matches on MPG, might try to find that video card.

lol@ Kung Lek

We have a God given right to bear arms(some of us,lol)

Ya’ll have armed bears.

Plus we can buy and drink more Canadain beer faster than ya’ll can make.:smiley:

Yummy stuff!

KC
I wasn’t trying to teach him I was just like, dude when sifu did it he turned his wrist like so, or something to that effect. It wasn’t a big correction just something small. Ok i don’t remember ecxatly what it was, and he’ll probly read this and go na,uh but anyway.