Anyone had these? I’ve got one right now, took a little hsing yi and a lot of external wushu stuff. Whenever something slightly resembles hsing yi(like a shuffle step we do called biu ma) he sees it with his hsing yi eyes(in hsing yi, a similar step would be ended in empty stance, whereas for us, the end stance resembles a closed pa kua stance). Then, when the teacher is not there, he’ll say “No, it goes like this” and there’s no convincing him otherwise, no matter how many times it happens. Any thing he’s learned something similar to before, he’ll do the old way, and never really learn the way we do it or the why, because he’ll say “Yeah, but it can be done this way”.
Yeah, a guy of ours took akido before and turns anything no matter what it is into somthing he learned in Akido. Funny thing is another guy who is currently taking akido says he doesn’t know what he is talking about and his basics suck. So I think that guy got ripped off when he took it, I mean he thinks Budo means sword fighting. Yet you can’t convince him of anything cause he is so stuck on it.
A young boy came up to the most famous master in his village and said master master will you teach me kung fu until i become great. The master replied I thought you had a teacher? the boy said yes many but they stopped teaching me. The master said to the boy, do you know why? the boy said no. The master motioned for the boy to come and sit down and have some tea. The old man then picked up the pot of tea and filled his cup and set the pot back down, the little boy looked puzzeled and said master are’nt you going to fill my cup too? the master laughed and said my son your cup is already full , you must first empty it before I can fill it. with that the boy looked in his cup and it was empty… he then learned his first lesson on how to learn kung fu to be great..
Not everyone is comfotable change and for some showing off is a defense mechanisim for low self esteem. You see if he has something to add it maybe his way of feeling like he knows something or wants to fit in. Or it could be that he is just an a**.. just kidding. But seriously he probably is stiking to what he knows for a reason that only he will know, I suggest talking to him and finding out why he wants so much attention. I say this as a teacher and a shrfu and my opinon is based on helping people especially students, so I understand that it can be frustrating , but beleive it or not its a cry for help or attention or both.
ED, yeah, that’s very possible. He has VERY low self esteem, is a good kung fu practitioner, but has a hard time being a beginner because, as a beginner, you cannot be falling back on pride, and pride is how he fills the gap in his self image.
I’ve got another guy I help teach, a wing chun guy. He’s good at wing chun, but just starting with our internal stuff. Show him any move, and he’ll get the surface motion very easily, and he’ll say “I got it”, but it is all tight, not supertight, but not like it should be. Its like he goes fast, but never accelerates, its just a little fast from beginning to end, not superfast at the end from being relaxed. He’s good though, and he doesn’t have an eye yet for the distinction between what he is doing and the reality of the technique(of course, that’s probably true of many of us). He’ll be good at the internal stuff once he starts to see the distinction, as he has little in the way of ego problems.
yea, and i let them think whatever they want. i don’t try to convince them of anything, but when they teach someone else wrong, then if i’m their senior i step in and say ‘not exactly, it goes like this’ and if i’m not i tell sifu what they are doing.
and i’ve had someone say exactly this, “yeah, but it can be done this way too”, to which i replied, ‘but in this school it’s done like this, and if you are a student in this school, then this is the way it’s done’. new school, new cup…plain and simple.
Quite a lot of people have “little man disease”
Even though its their first session they have to think they know it all. Its a pain in the arse for an instructor when there’s an ******* trying to tell everyone how he thinks it should be done.
Its one of the harder things for me to deal with, as I don’t want to make an unpleasant scene in the other students’ classtime, so I have to take this person to the side and explain it to them, and it cuts into the instruction time.
No, not a Canadian. I’m sure of it, as I’ve seen him eating only the finest pizza, and no Canadian could ever discriminate between good pizza and bad pizza.
I personally have a problem with being to quite when someone is teaching me. I just listen like I don’t know anything at all and some people feel like they need to be my “sifu” when in fact I am an instructor myself, so when we talk about other things they don’t like to listen to their “student”. When in fact somtimes I might know more about what they are talking about than they do, I admit it is a blow to the ego but it is a great way to learn from other MA instructors without them hesitating to sho me everything or them trying to accomodate my previous training. Saying things like “in Kungfu you probally do it like this” and tryin to explain themselves with my terminology when they just get it wrong. Anyway, when I attend other teachers classes i am a begginer in their art and I act like one.
Shaolin, I agree 100 per cent. My art has no place in another class/seminar. If they ask what I’ve studied, I’ll tell them, but I won’t purposefully do one technique from my style during their class/seminar.
Yes, its a fine Christmas eve. We’ve managed to cause unfetered conflict between the US, Britain, and Canada, and now we’re dragging the french into it.
I wonder if there’s anyone online right now from Iceland to offend.
lol i wasnt reading this thread What yuo wanna say about iceland?
Anywho i’ve been the new guy at a school now for about a year (started january last year), and i’m still “Kung fu boy” Dont really care since i know it’s not meant badly. I do it their way and really try to learn it their way, sure when they first show me something i associate it with something i know and figure it’s the same, but as soon as they correct me i try to do it the right way (although i do sometimes automatlcy do it the old way). I’m there to learn THEIR art, not to continue doing my previous one, it was hard at times though because i just did what i was told and nothing more, many times i wanted to ask if it was ok for me to get bumped up a few belts because i already knew all the basic kicks, and i wanted sometimes to just do a lot more complex kicking and sparring then i was doing. But i decided to just stick with the program and go through all the newbie stages.
It did me good actually, i learned a whole new way of kicking, i havent mastered it yet and i propably kick better the way i did, but i know if i stick with this i’ll get a lot better at kicking. Plus there was a lot of footwork (never did ANY footwork, not in wing chun or kickboxing, so that was great).
So i basicly think this is how everyone should approach a new art, even though you might even be able to win some of the higher belts, you shouldnt try to get to higher levels right away, not if you beleave the art your in is going to improve you. If you beleave it will improve you, you should take it from ground and work your way up just like anyone else.
The Shaolin have learned a lot from outside sources of martial arts, however they didn’t look at technique and equate it to their own, they learned the theory of the technique and application and then expounded on the concept to creat their own form or training method, not loosing the theory or concept of the original material.
I know exactly what you mean. Your Akido buddy has frustrated me a few times as well. That’s why I was equating Taji with Akido last time I was working with you guys. I was hoping it might plant a seed with him. Now, If I could get him to worry more about “Tucking” his “Tail Bone” and keeping his “spine straight” more than how low he goes, we’d be in buisness.
I have a Kempo freind like that as well. I finally gave up drilling techniques with him because every time we did something Tai Tzu, he “Kempoified” it.
What yuo wanna say about iceland?