[b]http://www.gmau.org/constitution.htm
http://www.angelfire.com/oh/ff4christ/System.html [/B]
Havnt done enough research on this…but at least this is a start.
I have to believe there are others like me who love the TMA’s…but do not want to open any doorways for the enemy to get a foothold in our lives.
Can Anyone out there identify with me?
JDK
website
[b][SIZE=“4”]http://tcftalk.suddenlaunch.com/index.cgi?board=WAR&action=display&num=1108647031[
Here is a Link to a website I created for my Church.
It has alot of different Topics…but the link I provided deals with our disussions[/SIZE] [/b]
JDK
Chi Vampires
[B][SIZE=“3”]
http://forum.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44210&page=2
[/SIZE][/B]
JD
sheesh :rolleyes:
I have to believe there are others like me who love the TMA’s…but do not want to open any doorways for the enemy to get a foothold in our lives.
Reverse punch - KIAAAAAAAAAA!
Demons be gone!
It is the only logical solution.
I’m an atheist, but I went to a church function a Christian friend of mine attended, which had a program called Karate for Christ. It was too hilarious to pass up. So I went. They actually did TKD. Anyways, when my sparring turn was up, I hit this dude on his right cheek. He just turned the other one, and I knocked him the **** out.
Funny.
Because we all know Satan is hiding around the corner of every strip-mall dojo, just waiting for the teacher to mention qi so he can steal you kid’s soul.
I’ll be glad when Bush is out of office so the Fundies will slide back into the fringe.
[QUOTE=JDK;733303]
Can Anyone out there identify with me?
JDK[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately, countless mouth-breathers.
You make me puke, and it’s projectile green vomit. Is someone trying to tell me something?
[QUOTE=JDK;733303]..but do not want to open any doorways for the enemy to get a foothold in our lives.
[/QUOTE]
Exactly what enemy is that? And how is that enemy going to get a foothold in your life by practicing martial arts?
I think it’s that guy in Napoleon Dynamite with the star-spangled trews. If you don’t practice martial arts he can’t get a foothold in your life.
I believe this “foothold on your life” of which Mr. JKD is speaking is actually a reference to an occultic Brazilian JiuJitsu technique practiced regularly by demons.
[QUOTE=JDK;731952]I beleive it is possible to steal a persons chi.
This is one of the main reasons I stopped practicing the spiritual parts of the Chinese Southern Styles…it is too connected to deity worship . I am a christian and DO believe in demon spirits, I believe they can masquarade as just about anything once you enter the spirit realm…so mu strong advice is to not get involved at all with these things we know little about.
One of my Instructors advised me a long time ago NOT to allow anyone to know the exact time of day I meditated or or pacticed meditative Chi-Kung.
Sometimes a person may secretly not like you, be jealous of your Martial ability…or just a thief.
Psychic Vampire
A psychic vampire is a person who connects with your chi (pronounced chee) or life force energy and takes it for his/her own purposes. This person may touch you even casually or just come close to you. You feel drained.
[/QUOTE]
This is why I never tell anyone where and when I’m going to masturbate. Those **** psychic vampires might touch me casually or come (that’s just sick, JDK) too close to me…
It must happen to me all the time. I always feel drained after a good wanking.
I have a question…if a male psychic vampire messes with my chi while I’m wanking, does that make me gay?
sorry, but christianity and martial arts don’t mix well. One will corrupt the other.
But alone, they are ok.
it’s kind of like mixing the wrong foods together. the results are almost always not tasteful and not ready for consumption.
the idea of martial arts being martial and developing yourself on those levels to be able to not only defend yourself but to kill of need be are completely contrary to the christian pinciples, ethic and morality.
so, a good christian doesn’t let themselves be pulled by such visceral activities as fighting and the enjoyment of fighting and thinking about ways you could hurt someone more effectively and so on.
If ytou take that stuff out of martial arts, it’s not martial, if you put it into christianity, it isn’t christianity.
pretty simple, but i guess people love to interpret so they can have thei cake and eat it too.
I disagree. I think they blend perfectly, if you cast aside the meaning of martial arts. When I was in high school, the Power Team came to my school. It was basically 4 or 5 steroid junkies running around to these different stations on the basketball court. They’d break a stack of bricks and shout something like “This is the power of Christ!” Then they’d run over and bend a steel pole: “This is what Jesus could do!” Then they’d lay down on a bed of nails (ironic) and get pounded by a sledgehammer, which would break the bricks on their stomach.
Then again, those are the kinds of people real martial artists tend to loathe, and for good reason. Kind of like the “spirit” boxers of the Cultural Revolution.
It made me realize something, though.
If Jesus had been an iron palm master, that whole crucifixion thing might have turned out differently.
you disagree because you are choosing to interpret what is said in the gosp[els.
ah, if only so called christians would take the time to actually ready the new testament, man would that ever make a difference.
here’s how it is.
the tenets of christianity do not support the practice and sustinance of a martial arts approach to life.
In fact, the belief of christianity is contrary to everything that is truly in the path of martial discovery.
you can be a good person and practice martial arts, but when you think of bringing pain to anyone, you are being unchristian in a big way. when you cause harm to another, especially your enemies, you go against the words of jesus christ.
You cannot have your cake and eat it too. They simply corrupt each other until you have some nonsensical interpretive soup where people desperately try to justify their behaviours so they can stay in one community but do things that are contrary to the beliefs of that community.
It’s analogous to putting a paedophile into a daycare job.
I can’t think and train towards breaking your arm and practice that and call myyself a christian plain and simple.
As a Christian, I am to love everyone, my enemies even more an dto not bring harm to them through my own volition and in fact, to not even think about bringing harm.
It doesn’t have to come out your mouth in christian terms.
for instance, in christian terms, if you think of defiling another mans wife, then you ahve already sinned in th eyes of god and jesus. the same applies with any of the other sins. If you think about hurting someone, you’ve already sinned.
they are not compatible. Unless and I reiterate, you liberally interpret the gospels to fit the corrupted union of martuial artistry and christian belief.
Mr Punchdrunk
[QUOTE=Shaolin Wookie;733345]I disagree. I think they blend perfectly, if you cast aside the meaning of martial arts. When I was in high school, the Power Team came to my school. It was basically 4 or 5 steroid junkies running around to these different stations on the basketball court. They’d break a stack of bricks and shout something like “This is the power of Christ!” Then they’d run over and bend a steel pole: “This is what Jesus could do!” Then they’d lay down on a bed of nails (ironic) and get pounded by a sledgehammer, which would break the bricks on their stomach.[/QUOTE]
I am sorry you had to witness such nonsense , using the name of Christ to promote it. I know they had good intentions…but it was misdirected and bad for the name of Christ.
I agree with you Wookie…THAT was not Martial Arts nor Christianity.
If Jesus had been an iron palm master, that whole crucifixion thing might have turned out differently.
[b]Jesus commanded the wind and Seas to be still…and they obeyed.
He opend blind eyes, unstopped deaf ears..made the Lame to walk, healed the Leper and rose people from the Dead.( like Lazuras)
Then in the First Century his disciples did the [u]same things[/b] and were recorded by spies from Ceasar and various writers and Scribes…many who were not believers.
He Also rose from the dead for all to see.
I’ll take that over an Iron Palm Master any day~:D
God bless
JDK
so how would martial arts demonstrations be different?
what would you demonstrate that aligns christianity with martial arts? and, how would it demonstrate that?
Thats Why Im Here
No BS…I cannot answer that question.
I am conflicted because of my love of the Arts since my teenage years…and my faith in Jesus.
I am hoping to find a way to practice…without involving the spiritual aspects that so many of the Traditional Arts bring with them.
I am trying to work it out …hoping that posting here would give me some ideas.
JDK
You are conflicted because satan has already cast doubts into your heart. You yourself identified the occult influences in the martial arts. What more proof do you need that the practice is evil?
The truth is, that if you want to be a follower of Christ, you must follow his teachings:
“Carry neither purse, nor script, nor shoes, and salute no man by the way.”
Luke 10:4
In other words, live in poverty. Wear no shoes, carry no bible, and vow allegience to no man. Why don’t you do that?
Just read the gospels. You’ll find the answers to your conundrum right there.
You cannot practice harming others, to harm others, with the intention required to bring harm to others, especially your enemies and still claim to be christian and to say you have “faith” in jesus and still make with these practices is contrary.
They are not compatible belief systems. It has nothing to do with the occult part, it has to do with learning to harm others physically which in the christian sense is not OK at all, especially your enemies who you should love even more and sek to bring no harm to.
I don’t know what the conflict is, just put down that thing that brings conflict, or pick it up and leave the other. You can’t have both, it is very simple.