A little punches-and-kicks exchange with a KF brother who’s been practicing CLF for 9 months, with no previous MA experience (that was the 3rd of 4 rounds).
Now we’ll start working havier on his footwork. He’s tall, he’s strong, but he does not move lightly.
Just in case, I’m the one in red.
Nothing there.
i watched. its there.
Nice work Marcelo…
How come? If you have an error message, please, try again. I have just checked it out.
Thank you Sifu Frank!
As I once told you, I started training CLF because of yours, Master Wong Zen Yem’s and the Lacey family videos. So I’m realy proud to receive a compliment from you.
All the best!
Much appreciated brother. keep up the good work.
For some reason it wouldn’t work on my wife’s ipad but it worked fine on my computer in the office this morning.
Good job.
Where is the CLF?
No commitment upon entry, no CLF footwork, horrible techniques.
All I see is some low-level kickboxing by two guys “exchanging some punches and kicks for fun.”
The General would not be pleased. ;-(
- jo
Thank you, CLFnole & Jo.
Jo, sorry that you did not like it. I thought there were some gwa-cheurn-loi yarn choi combos, some been choy and other stuff. But you know, I’ve been into CLF since last July only, so I assume I might be making some mistakes.
Would you please post a video of yours, so that I could watch and hopefully learn some more?
Thanks in advance!
Eh, marcelo, i saw clf in what you guys were doing. Don’t worry bout what jo is saying. I’m not too sure he knows too much about fighting. Theory maybe…keep up the good work. You don’t need to look 100% classical to be clf bro…
I don’t see how people think they can use their style when they put on gloves and jump around like boxers.
When you put on gloves and bounce around, you are doing boxing and kicking , not CLF.Its called kick-boxing, your not practicing your style, you are practicing how to run from other guy and what being hit with gloves feels like, and how to box and kick a moving target.
Cheers
Robinhood, I would love to see a sparring video of yours. Please, let me see how you put your style into practice. I’m sure that will be instructional for beginners like myself.
Sifu Frank, thanks again. I believe fighting these days is somewhat different from what we see in the Kung Fu movies of the 70s. But that’s just me and my thoughts.
BTW, I have never practiced kickboxing, just Chinesa Martial Arts and Luta Livre (Brazilian No-Gi Grappling).
Robinhood…up to no good. LOL
Marcelo, no one ever fought like the movies. like yourself, i would love to see robindhood demonstrate exactly how CLF should be executed. do you think we’ll be waiting long? I don’t have that much time to waste.
Marcelo,
Good work there. Especially since you have only been training since July. I could see some of the CLF in there. Good practice.
To those who only give negative feedback; As already requested, please post your own vids of how it should be done. Nobody starts out at the so-called ‘idealized level’ of CLF or any other art, for that matter. At least Marcelo is working on his art and trying things out. It’s a learning process, and he will continue to progress.
[QUOTE=hskwarrior;1170687]Eh, marcelo, i saw clf in what you guys were doing. Don’t worry bout what jo is saying. I’m not too sure he knows too much about fighting. Theory maybe…[/QUOTE]
(laughs quietly to himself..) heh heh heh…
if you only knew…
If the clip is supposed to be CLF, then why are they kickboxing?
A couple of backfists and overhands does not CLF make?
Where are your low stances, or any stance for that matter?
CLF is a vicious, intense style that does NOT look like “stand up” kickboxing.
- jo
The clip shows some guys relatively new to CLF who are trying to put the combat side of it to work. I saw hammer fists (pek choys) and the others. I’m sure as they keep sparring and exploring their CLF they are going to improve. it takes time to imbed the CLF way into ones routine.
so you are asking where is the “CLASSICAL” choy lee fut, i guess.
I agree, i didn’t see much there. But like anything, it takes time to learn. some people learn faster, some people learn slower. its never about the system, its always about the fighter.
i agree, CLF is vicious. under the right circumstances we can be relentless n brutal.
Yet, i disagree about the height of the stances. even the Chan fam side of things say all beginners start out low then eventually move on to higher stances. personally, i feel lower stances are too slow. i’ve also noticed the buk sing fam changing from really low to higher stances as of the recently past years.
I also disagree with the general being disappointed in them. i believe he would have some positive things to say about them.
I remember when I first started MA, I was 15 and it was Kenpo Karate, they showed you all these forms and techniques with special punches, chops and kicks of all different applications. Then they said come to Chinese Boxing. Class, in the class you put on protective gear and fought like you guys are doing. I thought to my self, where are all those moves and kicks I learned ?, I did that for 10 years, and I can tell you that it does not develop you to use your MA.
It is good exercise, as long as you don’t get hurt, but you are spinning your wheels as for as learning to apply your art or yourself in a efficient manner that works in the future.
Cheers
Class, in the class you put on protective gear and fought like you guys are doing.
put the gloves on and body gear and fight and learn to use the style. don’t get caught up in the classical BS. use the techniques of your system. the gloves and body gear are only intended to take harder blows and try out harder blows.
Well, ya gotta start somewhere, I suppose.
I personally don’t teach sparring in this way. I teach “attack sequences,” which are bridging techniques with follow-ups, reaction drills, etc.
When the student can perform the attack sequences-which is part of our standardf warm-up for each and every class, so that it is “hardwired into the system,” then we do a drill called, “Random Acts of Violence.” Which is having them go across the floor doing the sequences at random, as I call them out.
The next step is “Flow Fighting,” which is “sparring,” but slowed down and continuous attacking. The idea is to completely flow non-stop barrage.
When they can do this well, they gear up and increase the intensity-speed/contact, and then they are fighting.
Once they are proficient in this, they are taught to develop more tactics, movement, set-ups, etc.
So far, if they “trust the process,” it’s been working pretty well.
Sorry, no vids as of yet…but you get the idea.
One caveat; sometimes I will let them just “spar” right off-just to let them see how much they don’t know, so they are more receptive to my method.