We are taught a single short-stick form in our curriculim. It’s a short form, but nice in terms of footwork.
I also learned a double short-stick form from another guy who claimed it was chinese in origin, so I suppose they are out there.
can you describe the single short stick form to me?
I’d love to see some video of a short stick form, besides the 18 Daoist palms guy. I’m not too impresed with him, and most of what i have seen of that guy is some sort of kempo looking thing.
Our lineage of NCK has two shorter sticks. One is the short stick, called the ‘dog hitting stick’. It is roughly the length from the tips of the fingers to the shoulder, a little shorter. A lot of the techniques are similar to the broadsword. The other is the ‘beggar’s cane’ which is probably about 4’ long and used like a staff but also including some short stick type techniques.
Hmmm. That’s a bit difficult as I don’t have “lyrics” for the form per se. Form starts with the stick in right hand with one end on the ground. Steps out, left leg, left hand covers and palm strikes. Right leg steps up to join left and the stick jabs out to the center of their body mass. Left hand clears to your left, left knee comes up to check and you step out to a bow stance to the left and strike with the stick. right knee comes up to check, and you clear the outside then inside of the body with the stick and step out to a right bow stance and strike down with the stick. You then turn and so a series of spins and steps wich repeats itself a few times in the form. That’s the first part of the form. You will often times step behind and turn to gain momentum for a strike with the stick.
Is that clear as mud?
Oh, our short stick is typically as long as the distance from your wrist to the ground.
I actually have 2 flutes in my bag right now… :eek:
I bought one, then found a nicer one & bought it. Just haven’t taken one out yet, so in theory… I can manage a two flute set right if I did butterfly swords or daggers or some such as that.
Mi Sidai plays flute, and he carries a bag with about ten in it.
I think Mizhong Lohan has double short stick, and I did once learn a Baji short stick.
Also, why is single dagger so uncommon?
I don’t know. We have a couple of single dagger sets, but there not very complicated.
well i stand corrected. now i’d like to see all ten flutes in motion. that would quite the form.
Can we say “Jugler Fu?”
Don’t, he really does juggle as well :eek:
Lol!!
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I havent’t really read the rest of the posts, so forgive me if I am repating someone!
Yes there is a shoulder to finger tip length stick. We have a short stick form in mizong chuan (called Duan Kun).
The shorts stick use has some similarities with broadsword, dagger and staff as you would expect, and has far more footwork than philipino styles, though the strikes, while generally being more powerfully, are slowler.
sorry for jumping in so late, but my sifu taught the short staff as one of the first 3 weapons in his northern shaolin longfist cirriculum.
it was an interesting form.. very extreme low and high movements.
RD, I learned 3 single short stick sets and 3 double short stick sets from my teacher in Boone. They were present in his system prior to his training with Kash.
Not sure of thier origin. We also had the modern arnis and they were distinctly different in how they looked. They were played with short sticks that were supposed to be about 2" longer than fingers to elbow so when in a reverse grip you had a couple inches in front and a couple inches in back for forward and backward poking.
The single sets were also a bit different in feel than the double sets.
both of them had movements similar to broadsword sets.
once I tried to do the second double stick set with some butterfly knives…ended up in the emergency room with some stitches in my knuckle…that was the first time I’ve ever seen any part of my skeleton…
The first time? How many “times” are there?
lol, so far, just the once.
it was kinda cool, there was almost no blood and I could pull the skin apart over my knuckle and see the joint and a little bit of the finger bone.
I did that to my elbow once! :eek:
In Italy, Master Chang Dsu Yao from Taiwan teach a combat with Bang (Pang).
Youcan see Bang in “Ancient Chineses Weapons” of Yang Jwing-ming.
Do You know more about this kind of weapons. There are video or books ?
Thanks
My Canadian school did a bit of short stick training. We used escrima stick style weapons along with the slightly longer ones these guys are mentioning. The longer ones were normally used to practice sword work against a resisting opponent. You can’t accidentally chop off fingers with a stick.