Calling all Shaolin Americans

Thank you gilgamesh,

mickey

please don’t feel limited if you are outside the US, people from all over the world have been issued invites…the competition is the second one of its kind (organised and run by Lipeng)…the only criteria is that you’re a current member of a Shaolin kungfu school. It is the biggest event to hit international shaolin kungfu since the last one…go along and check it out…will be well worth the time for any dedicant :smiley:

In fact, this is the 3e international Shaolin competition that liPeng is organising..1998 and 2000 in Europe and now in NJ..
But this one will be more special than the previous one’s…

OK, I’m confused…please clarify the “Stipulations” of entry for me. As one person stated on here, anyone that studies at a Shaolin Kung Fu school is invited. But from what i’m reading and understanding, this is not really the case! I’d like a bit more clarification on this please.

Thanks!

i emailed them for info. i told my shifu about it. a couple people were more interested in the serminars.

Basicly the tournament is open to students of Hengxin, Li Peng, Yan Ming, Goulin, Xing Hao, De shan or maybe a few other shaolin monk masters. This is because it would be too hard to judge form and techniques from other styles. It’s not a big thing if you can compete or not. Just come and have fun. Take some seminars and watch some amazing performances. It should be a fun weekend.

thats just not true…I am not a member or student of any of those and I was invited … if in too much doubt, check out the website or send him (Lipeng) an email…the more the merrier..I’m sure he’ll be glad to hear from ya :wink:

ok…just re-read the invite…

“the competition portion is open to students of guenuine shaolin kungfu schools. The seminar portion is open to all . A number of shaolin monks will hold seminars on various topics. On saturday night there will be a masters demonstration” (:smiley: :smiley: :smiley: )details will follow on the website in a few wks..dated jan 27 '04…

:wink:

Does anyone know whether you could just be a spectator?

i emailed him he will send me info. my sigong is lueng li fu from bak shaolin eagle claw. my sifu was trained intraditional shaolin forms then lau family style eagel claw and my sifu trained with shi yan ming for a while so i dont see why our schools wouldnt be able to compete? :dunno: i have forms like lain bu and moi fa. :dunno:

I am a friend and student of Teacher Li Peng. I am also close with those in charge of making the invite. If you are not a student of those listed above or a student of Jamal Brown you may not be invited. I say may because nothing in terms of invites has been decided completely. Only the announcment has been released. The final invites and rules will be announced shortly. The forms will be xiao hong, tong bei, da lohan, lian huan, zhao yong, spear, straight sword, staff, broadsword, basics category, self-defense (rules to be announced).

Myunderstanding is this is just Songshan Shaolin lineage…

…somebody corret me if I’m wrong. Although it would be cool to open something like this up to the BSL lineages, but then again, where would you stop? Shaolin-Do? :stuck_out_tongue:

By the way, we wouldn’t want you Europeans to feel left out - See May 1st!

Songshan Shaolin - comin’ at ya! :cool:

Originally posted by ninja
I am a friend and student of Teacher Li Peng. I am also close with those in charge of making the invite. If you are not a student of those listed above or a student of Jamal Brown you may not be invited. I say may because nothing in terms of invites has been decided completely. Only the announcment has been released. The final invites and rules will be announced shortly. The forms will be xiao hong, tong bei, da lohan, lian huan, zhao yong, spear, straight sword, staff, broadsword, basics category, self-defense (rules to be announced).

so its only to watch and seminars then. oh well. seminars are good :smiley:

Re: Myunderstanding is this is just Songshan Shaolin lineage…

Originally posted by GeneChing
[B]…somebody corret me if I’m wrong. Although it would be cool to open something like this up to the BSL lineages, but then again, where would you stop? Shaolin-Do? :stuck_out_tongue:

By the way, we wouldn’t want you Europeans to feel left out - See May 1st!

Songshan Shaolin - comin’ at ya! :cool: [/B]

It’s nice to know that Traditional Shaolin Kung Fu is in the same group as shaolin do’h and all the other fake CMA out there.

I think what they are saying if you do any Songshan forms you can compete… aka, if you do one of the monks versions of say.. da lohan or xiao hong chuan… etc.

oooo i see PRC kung fu!

thanks NP!:smiley:

Dear Mr Tao of Wushu:

By reading your posts, one might think that you are being a bit defensive about your lineage. Interesting that many of the forms announced about by Mr. ninja! are in the old turn of the century Shao-Lin transcripts and early 1900’s textbooks, and yet still there are people that claim that Songshan Shao-Lin is PRC. This competition appears not to be about the Monks (I’m sure they’ve heard much worse than you can throw at them) but is about the students and the forms. The Monks that I know don’t care if you consider them PRC–they know what is in their heart. The students, after practicing for a while, don’t care if you consider them PRC --they know what is in their heart. It appears that the only people that are truly concerned are those that are not of Songshan Shao-Lin - and what is in their hearts, what is their motive?

Further, it is interesting that many of the BSL practitioners do not allow Songshan practitioners at their competitions, yet you never hear a word about it. Yet, when the Songshan practitioners come along with a competition of their own, the BSL’ers want to be a part of it, or create controversy. Why is that?

Sincerely,

dimmakseminar

Songshan vs. BSL

Now this does sound familiar… Actually, my research has progressed a bit since I wrote that e-zine piece on Songshan Shaolin vs. BAk Sil Lum through my work with Dr. Meir Shahar. He’s found evidence of the Songshan forms documented back to the 16th century, long before the PRC. Now, one might argue that the PRC monks simply reconstructed these forms to fit what was described, but here’s the rub, Dr. Shahar’s discovery was a scholarly find. No one knew about these documents prior to his find - they were locked in some library somewhere. Dr. Shahar had no prior knowledge of the curriculam of Shaolin. When he brought copies of these documents to the monks, they were ecstatic.

There is no record of Bak Sil Lum that we’ve been able to trace beyond what we have now. Now, being a BSL person myself, this in NO WAY invalidates the practice, or the claim that it is of Shaolin descent. In fact, any monk that looks at BSL will acknowledge it’s Shaolin roots. The point that is significant here is that a BSL person should not take the stance that Songshan is PRC, because that argument will lead to the scholarly retort, and then where will we be?

Personally, I would love to see the BSL forms reclaimed by Songshan. There’s been some traces, some parallel forms, although they are very faint. It’s really up to the BSL community to find more if they want a stronger claim to the heritage. Surely BSL can go on practicing whatever it wants, but in my heart, I feel the genuine link is there, buried somewhere over time, so I pursue it when I can. Clearly, the strategy of opposition is inappropriate.

Gene, was I correct in my assumption earlier?

Dear Mr. GeneChing:

Thank you for your most informative posts. I (and others I’m sure) sincerely appreciate all of the effort that you take in making Shao-Lin Kungfu QiGong Magazine and this forum one of the most informative sources of this type of information. I almost met you one time, as we were just a few short feet away from each other as you spoke with my Master…but that is a story for another time. :smiley:

Sincerely,

dimmakseminar