suffobeast
I was raised in Sunnyvale too! Where (and when) did you go to High School?
Gene Ching
Asst. Publisher
Kungfu Qigong Magazine & www.KUNGFUmagazine.com
Sunnyvale
I lived on Wolfe Rd. Between Cupertino Mall and El Camino Real blvd. I used to work at the Crown books next to what was Vons (though I don’t know if it changed) I went to Freemont High '96-'98.
Rick
s0b
That’s too wacky. I lived between Wolfe, Sunnyvale Saratoga, & El Camino. I went to Fremont 78-82 with Teri Hatcher…
Gene Ching
Asst. Publisher
Kungfu Qigong Magazine & www.KUNGFUmagazine.com
Teri Hatcher
So she really did go there! I thought it was all crazy talk because I had moved there from Oahu in '89. Then when I got in to HS it was really weird to hear that, she was even in a school article later 98… Anyways, I am thinking that I will probably go back to Cali soon, all my family lives in L.A. but hey it would be nice to go to San Fran again and check things out. Hmm maybe you can answer a question for me… Have you ever heard of a Hung gar practitioner named Frank Rivera(?)? I would like to find some type of Shaolin system out here, however the most we have is the Chinese Shaolin Center, however I studied there, and a few TKD places to get basics and keep fit. I regret moving here, but I know its for the best for now… Well I am rambling on.. hope to hear from you.
Rick
Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!
First of all I met Brian many years ago at a tounament in Baltimore MD. At that time he was doing some made up Shaolin forms. Of course he said they were not, but could not give you the lineage behind them. They were not complete! May have came from some Shaolin somewhere? but not complete. If you want to make him angry? ask him who his teachers were? He acts as if you shouldnt ask that question. There has to be some lineage somewhere? He told me that his teacher didnt want him to spread his name around so he wasnt going to spread it. And then he went on this thing that the only people I respect is Chinese people, and if he is not Chinese then i think he is not legit. No! Not what i meant! Only if you are out there competeing you should be able to tell people where you learn it. Not a tough question? People, dont care, about your race. I would have bet he wouldnt have lasted a year at what he was teaching. Go figure. Only in America, can a guy will little skill get away with this stuff. I think he was taught most of his stuff from books. He is a well spoken man. He has no roots. If you see him move, you know why he’s smacking rocks with his hand. And until he comes out with a name, we dont even have to have heard of the guy, Im betting he was taught by reading everthing he can get his hands on.
Pecks
Reply to suffobeast
Master Brian Gray has a thing when it comes to lineage. It is a sore subject with him. The video course is good. What I recommend is that he has a seminar every year, usually, the last week in March. He covers what is on the Shaolin videos and has testings for each level. The weekend is strictly utilized for Iron Palm and Iron Palm testing. Send him an email and find out the details. Have a great day.
Damian
Reply to BUCH
I don’t think it is fair to criticize someone when you don’t really know him. Most of what your sentences say “I think” which means you don’t know. Why does a person have to have a lineage? People, for example, say they studied under Doc Fai Wong and come to find out it was just a seminar on a weekend but they claim to be the greatest since swiss cheese. So what? Why should he, Brian Gray, tell you anything. You are not his student, he is not your Sifu/Shrfu. Have you ever noticed how Chinese Masters instruct? They appear to only give you a piece of the pie. Master Brian Gray will give you the whole pie but you won’t even know it. Have a good day BUCH, train hard.
Damian
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=“-1”>quote:</font><HR>Why does a person have to have a lineage? People, for example, say they studied under Doc Fai Wong and come to find out it was just a seminar on a weekend but they claim to be the greatest since swiss cheese. [/quote]
He has to have learned from somebody. Of course it’s also important to know how long he’s studied also. I think I have video of some of his students competing with beginer level modern Chang Quan routines. Don’t take my word for that though as I’ll have to double check.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=“-1”>quote:</font><HR>So what? Why should he, Brian Gray, tell you anything. You are not his student, he is not your Sifu/Shrfu.[/quote]
The same reason a Dr. should tell you where his degree came from. How else is a beginer student suposed to know whether you’re legit or not?
Email to BG
Damian,
As I beleive I stated above, I once made the mistake of asking him (Brian Gray) who he was taught by. I got a mean response. Anyways, are you a practitioner or just IP? Is it worth getting video 4-5 and I know he is making 6-12 right now, or at least it is in the works he says. Should I continue, w/ those.. I have already inquired about his seminars maybe I will go to one when I get more $$ and time.
Rick
suff
Yeah Teri went there and I don’t have a single story about her. She went to our 10 year and next year is our 20th (LORD!) so maybe she’ll be there again.
I don’t know Frank but that doesn’t mean anything…
Gene Ching
Asst. Publisher
Kungfu Qigong Magazine & www.KUNGFUmagazine.com
interesting
how time does go by. That’s ok, I have heard alot about him and his Tiger-Crane instruction. I may pick up a few of the videos from the WLE site. personal instruction is always the best, but viseo is the next best thing when you can’t get find someone or if scheduling doesn’t match their training schedules…
Rick
=p
Maybe she’ll bring Howie. =K
“If you and I agree all the time, then one of us is unnecessary.”
GeneChing - Wing Lam
Gene,
I was just looking at the WLE site and the videos. I have a thirst for knowledge as you may have already guessed, and alot of questions to ask. I know everyone at one time or another has probably been or heard of people in my position that would like to take on training, however due to lacking of schools/instructors and a work schedule that is insane which most schools don’t offer training in those time areas. I am left with little to no choice of resorting to Videos, and self modification of techniques taught via Video.
So here is my question to you as a student and a teacher to respond w/.
If I buy the Wing Lam Hung Gar videos (be it 1-2 at a time or a whole set) would it be the same curriculum, training as if I was to go to the school?
To break alittle bit more down, drop the personalized training aspect of an actual sifu/student relation and take a look at a perspective of a Kempo student of 5yrs who picks up info really fast and can determine alot of factors in movements, can visualize attacks/defense, and can put together ratios of where stances are, where the hands should be or can be, so on and so forth.
Do you (honest opinion please) believe that I could pick up good training, and learn it effectively?
Let me know and maybe I can set a goal to learn a very well rounded system from legit instructors, both northern and southern. And then I can attend seminars, special classes at the actual schools (if I am in the areas) and receive the personalized training that is missing.
Thank you,
Rick
dam im like a mr.ching sidekick////
if you have good kenpo ive been reading on these boards thiers alot of politics…if you have good kenpo you already have a understanding of ranges and zones in combat"i study some kajukenbo".
from that you could spend the next couple of years developing the aura of the art,but eventually you must or have to seek personnal instruction just to make sure your motions are applicable.
suffObeast
A year or so ago Master Gray had a special offer for the first five tapes and I think it was $120.00 (1-5). You know more than I when it comes to 6-12 cause I haven’t heard a word. I am a Chen stylist and Iron Palm practitioner. My Lao Shr for Chen is Kam Lee from Jacksonville, FL. I met Master Gray late in 1995. I have been to all of the Iron Palm conventions except the first one. I couldn’t make it so I ended up in Lakeland, Florida meeting Master Gray for the first time. I have been with him for a little over six years. To read what you said of your first meeting with him is hard for me to believe. I have never known him to be that way. In closing I will say again that although he is not Chinese, he is the real deal. He practices what he preaches. Have a good day.
Damia
suffObeast reply to Hung Gar training
I have had training in Hung Gar and what I would like you to do my Kung Fu brother is email me at dfedorko@mindspring.com before you purchase any more tapes and let me see if I can assist you. Have a good one.
Damian
suff & diego
suff: Wing Lam’s curriculum is the basis of WLE’s videos. Of course, direct teaching is more interactive so it is far superior (and that alters the curriculum) but I believe you can learn from everything. I even learned something from David Carradine’s video (how not to act and dress!)
diego: Cool. A sidekick. Can you wear tights and a mask? 
Gene Ching
Asst. Publisher
Kungfu Qigong Magazine & www.KUNGFUmagazine.com
learning
Cool, I will be checking some out then.
Thanks,
Rick
ttt 4 2017
[QUOTE=Lost_Disciple;29179]All I can say is that he talked up his training of Anthony Michael Hall and showed pictures of him doing his kung fu in a mag. I wasn’t impressed. [/QUOTE]
I know, I know, what necro-fu to dig up this ol’ thread. But it mentions AMH, and for the record, that AMH article was run in our SEP 2000 issue: A Touch of Hope . . . Anthony Michael Hall’s New Journey By Brian Gray. I guess it wasn’t that hopeful in the end after all. :o
Anthony Michael Hall Sentenced to Three Years’ Probation for Assault
3:54 PM PDT 9/20/2017 by the Associated Press
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Anthony Michael Hall
Prosecutors say the actor and a next-door neighbor in Playa del Rey got into an argument in September 2016 that ended with Hall pushing the man to the ground.
The Breakfast Club actor Anthony Michael Hall has pleaded no contest to shoving a neighbor who fell and broke his wrist.
The 49-year-old Hall entered the plea in Los Angeles County Superior Court on Wednesday to one misdemeanor count of assault likely to produce injury.
He was immediately sentenced to 40 hours of community service and three years of informal probation.
Prosecutors say Hall and a next-door neighbor in Playa del Rey got into an argument in September 2016 that ended with Hall pushing the man to the ground.
Hall was a staple of early-1980s teen movies including The Breakfast Club and Sixteen Candles. He more recently appeared in The Dark Knight and on the TV series The Dead Zone.