Do you practice breathing exercise or Qi Gong in your MA school?
If so, how to do you practice?
How does that help with your MA study?
If you know some qigongs, then it is in your best interest to do them.
Many kungfu schools have qigong teachings. some schools work them in throughout the class and warm ups, other schools focus an entire class on them.
either way it improves your martial arts. It gives you awareness and focus on yourself in a holistic sense.
qigong and meditation will help your sparring too because it will impede adreniline dump and loss of gross motor skills when you get hit.
a person who masters both breath work and martial art and who actually applies their art on a regular basis through sparring or contact fighting will only get better and will avoid all teh presupposed occurances of adrenline dump, loss of gross motor skills and other detrimental factors to fighting that occur with people who do not work on these things at all.
But, it is a hard sell to many people and many people I have trained with simply donât have the patience to meditate or do qigongs.
Some canât even sit still for 1 lousy minute! 1 minute. yeesh! Is that too much to ask?
anywayâŚbefore i start rambling 
Originally posted by Kung Lek
[B]qigong and meditation will help your sparring too because it will impede adreniline dump and loss of gross motor skills when you get hit.
a person who masters both breath work and martial art and who actually applies their art on a regular basis through sparring or contact fighting will only get better and will avoid all teh presupposed occurances of adrenline dump, loss of gross motor skills and other detrimental factors to fighting that occur with people who do not work on these things at all.[/B]
so, would you say that boxers, thai boxers, etc. are doing some form of qigong training?
when your doing a form right and get the breathing controlled, your doing qigong.
cheers
Yes.
Qi gong may be practiced by itself to massage all internal organs and make Qi flow smoothly in the meridians. This is to gain health benefits.
Qi gong exercise is also unique to each school.
In order to do certain moves, there are requirements to breathe in and out in a certain way.
Yes, Qi gong exercise is inseparable from you doing the moves right.
If breathing is wrong or out of sync, you may not do your moves right or last long in fight. Sort of breathing the wrong way, you may not swim far.
That is why in addition to Qi gong, I use swimming as another way to practice.
In general, breathe in when in defense or taking âhitsâ (you are shrinking your chest and abdomen plus positioning away from the attack), breathe out when you move your foot and hand forward to attack.
so, would you say that boxers, thai boxers, etc. are doing some form of qigong training?
If they are doing breath work then yes.
Martial qigongs are different in practice to health qigongs, or spiritual or otherwise.
They (martial qigongs) do in fact train the breath in such a way as it is used to maintain steady endurance and to work the anaerobic threshold.
Part of fighting in a sportive match is endurance of body, mind and certainly breath.
Extension training is also important. Qigongs often focus on trunk (spinal column and torso) extension, arm extension and leg extension coupled with breathing that maximizes extension (without violently hyperextending of course).
Stilling the mind can be done in any number of ways, but it is this focus that allows a boxer, muay thai, mma shaolin or otherwise to remain in the moment and to not be distracted from without or within while in combat, sportive or otherwise.
Many modern martial artists do all sorts of exercises to meet the criteria of raising and lowering the heart beat rapidly through breath techniques featured in anaerobic threshold training. Including boxers.
The terminology is entirely different, but principles are very similar. Much like how there are many qigongs that are similar but not exactly the same as traditional yoga.
Things evolved, I guess there is a touch of mystcism at play in regards to classical martial arts, but if you train diligently and correctly how could you not succeed? AnywayâŚrambling again. 
You ever notice the opening ritual associated with traditional muay thai? where the heck does that come from? Seriously, there are plenty of good as new old ways left.
the ram muay? consider it a form - they differ from camp to camp and have different meanings. They all serve the same purpose though.
I didnât say âwhat is itâ I said âwhere the heck is it fromâ? As in, from what aspect of Muay Thai fighting is it derived?
It is often what brings the stillness of mind to the fighter. A ritual dance used as a focus point.
You know, in Thaliand, many people will bet good money on the fighter whoâs Ram Muay shows better spirit.
We actually practice medical qigong, called Jin Gon Tzu Li Gong, it is a projecting qi skill used for medical healing purposes as opposed to martial, but in any case you are using your Qi in harmony with your movements and spirit, without these working in unison you only have the shell without the yoke.
Breathing is the low level of qigong. It can be important, in some styles, but it is the begginning level. Often breathing is done into the Dan tien chakra, at the naval, or through the qihai point into the navel chakra. That is a lower chakra. Martial qigong is lower vibration energy than mental, or spiritual qigong, and most martial qigong cannot be considered medical. As far as Ram Muay or Wai Kru, I view that as more a religious practice than a qigong practice. It was probably real at one time, but has now become ritual.
Breathing is the low level of qigong
Breathing is qigong and is instrumental to it in all its forms.
I gotta disagree with this statement.
There are advanced styles with no breathing. The point is to forget the breath eventually. Breath is a manifestation of qi, governed and sustained by it, as are all things. Many styles use postures, movements, mudras and mantras.
Often breathing is done into the Dan tien chakra ???
I am aware of the area you are speaking about, just found it funny and odd that you mixed an Indian sanskrit word with a chinese mandarin word to explain the same thing?
There is no âdantien chakraâ. its either or
Dantien/ navel chakra. Itâs just that , while some qigong has an idea of all chakras, to call the third eye or heart chakra, dantien, Iâm not so sure is correct, because while they are related, Iâm not sure other chakras are an energy feild. So I think itâs a good way to say it no? It shows the connection between them.
bretahing might help you still your mind, but itâs not going to give you super qi blasts or iron skin. Only good hard work is going to make you good at fighting.
" The point is to forget the breath eventually."
And float or what? You cannot live without breath⌠Unless you arent human.
I too do not understand the reasoning of your usage of an indian term mixed with mandarinâŚ
Methinks this may be Blooming Lotusâs more eloquently speaking alter ego.
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I say it to show dantien training is connected to other chakras. But to say upper or middle dantien, is not right. I donât know either language, but language has nothing to do with it, but definition do.
If by chakras you mean meridians, then yes⌠But then why not say meridians?
UmmmâŚ:rolleyes:
Ummm⌠:rolleyes:
I spend most of my time training on the mat, on my feet with feet and hands comming at me. Not sitting and breathing. This is apparently not my area of expertise, but by your lack of ability to explain its not yours either.
âOne of the seven centers of spiritual energy in the human body according to yoga philosophy.â
You are trying to relate this to TCM and rolling your eyes at me? 8 vessels and 12 channels⌠7 chakras⌠Whatever.