Iron filings
I worked for five years as a swordmaker at The Armoury. There were iron filings everywhere. That stuff used to poke through our thick cowhide aprons. I’m very skeptical that the hand could be conditioned to such toughness.
In fact, this was my big break with IP. I couldn’t train because I always had metal slivers. I’d have to take an hour or so every few weeks of soaking my hands and pulling out metal slivers. IP training drove them ****her in.
lofl
wont let you say far ther cause of fa rt. 
Erm…
“Schlong Qi Gong”.
lol… I would never hang a 100+lb weight from my johnson. Dont need to pull it, is long enough as it is, and dont want to ruin functionability.
that seriously cannot be good for your reproductive proccesses.
a lot of people practice iron palm incorrectly, and f*ck up their joints and ligaments.
People go sterile once they reach the last level of iron palm, does lots of bad things to you internally.
that seriously cannot be good for your reproductive proccesses.
Actually, I heard Iron pee pee is very good for doing the nasty.
iron pee pee
Only a few really dedicated people get to 100lbs, so you needn’t worry. But by all reports, it’s supposed to make you bigger, longer and harder. Next time you get an increase your size spam, don’t delete it right away - it may be me selling iron crotch!
People go sterile once they reach the last level of iron palm, does lots of bad things to you internally.
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I don’t buy this for a second. It’s just a progressive bone hardening exercise. I can see maybe if you really over do it, but if your careful, and approach it with common sense, I don’t see how it could hurt. If anything, it’s one of those things that should have no end to how good it is.
That sounds like External Iron Palm.
Originally posted by iron_silk
[B]This message is kind of off topic!
I only recently started learning BSL and my sifu has told me that there are two way in training iron palm. And when you do train in iron palm the fingers and palms starts to callous and something about the finger widdening. In the end losing all sensation from your hands.
So how do you guys deal with it? or is it all different?
the 6th line in my Tam Tui is all fists but what you mentioned does sound like the 4th line in my Tam Tui where one arm sweeps with the hand in a crane, and the palm strikes out with focus on the heal of the palm to make contact. I think… [/B]
iron_silk,
What you’re talking about sounds like External Iron Palm.
Not Internal Iron Palm which is what’s taught today.
jeff
in regards to the iron filings.
this is considered the top level of the indirect method, and i myself am skeptical of it Gene :).
It seems hella crazy to use the filings and not get damaged! but, i’m just repeating what I’ve been shown, taught, read and told about the practice of the development of the iron palm.
I’m even more skeptical of the attributes of “red sand” palm (the moving stuff from a distance, lin kong jing/no touch, etc etc), but I wouldn’t disqualify the methods.
For instance, in red sand palm, there is the action of rubbing the grains in your hands. Very similar to developing a skill by simply crumpling paper again and again. It’s surprising what comes of paper crumpling method. Really goos hard strikes with little in the way of neuralgia!
Personally, I really think the indirect method is the way to go. Takes a little longer to be sure but the skill is ill!
cheers
About Red Sand Palm.
D J (Kung Lek),
I follow you on the Red Sand Palm.Is it even still being taught today?
I mean who has 20 yrs to devote to Red Sand Palm Training?
I would think if you were learning Red Sand palm your fighting skills would not be that good.The Palm would be the only thing you’d have.
jeff:)
This is getting kind of silly here.
A few of the methods you are discussing would damage your hands permanently even with good jow. Most modern practitioners train a bit differently using the ?soft iron palm? training method.
I am an artist by profession and I need my fingers to actually bend as opposed to becoming a club…
Want a real weapon buy a gun.
More effective and the iron filings are left on the factory floor. 
Peace
Lokhopkuen
IP wacky
There’s so much weird mythology around Iron Palm. I’ve always felt people over mysticize it. I mean really all we’re talking about here is mixing qigong and a conditioning method. Of course you can damage your self phycially with any conditioning and mentally/spiritually with any qigong. FWIW, have you guys checked out GM Alex Tao’s Iron methods?
hehehe
I guess I see how the iron crotch could increase bloodflow, making it larger, stronger ect… But to much more could make the guy useless. Size does matter, but too big is gross.
As for the iron palm, i was talking about external. Once you reach the final level and continue the practice, it leads to sterility. I have read it a couple of places… Ill have to find it and post a link.
May take me a little while…
He-he!
There is this great old Japanese series called Hanzo the razor where dude (Hanzo) pours boiling hot water over his unit before beating it with a stick before plunging it into the slit of a bag of dry rice… Cool! 
Some guys conversating in the movie describe his unit as being huge and having all sorts of warts and lumps on it!!!
Later he tortures chicks with it! “Tell me what I want to know or I will stop!”
Double cool!
I am afraid to try this!
Ha-ha-ha!!
Lokhopkuen
Hanzo
lhk - I know that series! It’s great (in a mysogynist npc sort of way…) Hilarious fight scenes. His house is all full of booby traps that kill invading ninjas. Shintaro Katsu (the blind swordsman) was the lead. I think there were three of those movies. I love that he used buddhist statues as sparring dummies.
sd - GM Tu claims that people train everything else, why not the crotch? I find it interesting that a lot of IP people tend to project all those same negative myths of IP to IC.
I guess… With size and strength tho, you get a little too much power for most wimmins.
If you could hold 125 lbs, you could hold (any woman I would f*ck) without your hands. lol.
shaolin-do
Given your present avatar, how come you don’t practice the crotch? Seriously, man, put your money where your avatar is…
Longer, Stronger? I don’t need it. Why do you think they call me MR. Horse?