I agree with IE, we should encourage each other to put up footage. Mine will be sad, the school we train at has heavy bags, but the building is owned by a tcm guy who almost always has patients during our class times, so it doesn’t work out, plus I don’t feel right messing with other people’s gear, especially stuff like a heavy bag, which costs some and does wear out.
So my initial footage will be my sad, falling to peices heavy bag, in my low roofed ceiling. I’ll try to get it up in the next week, just pretend I’m training to defend the little doorway in Being John Malkovich.
[QUOTE=u dung;1094657]I bet you sit around all thinking of things to write - loser
who cares about your training, if you were good you would be world champion- your a loser and know on told you.[/QUOTE]
In all seriousness, great write up DJ. The only addition I would add is to work on footwork adamantly. Too often I see guys who stand stationary in front of the bag and wail away at it without moving around, without parrying, and without moving their torso. Cliche as it sounds, stick and move, stick and move.
great thread. I would have to agree with the above statement as well. To many people do not move enough around the bag. Also head movement while working combinations is very critical in my book. To many people get complacent and stationary and it falls over into there sparring. I always try and keep my head moving while doing bag work. As ronin stated you have to visualize an opponent on the other end of your strikes. getting caught up in the “pitfall” of stationary is a bad habit while working the bag.
Another thing I would like to add to this thread is mitt work and the importance and benefits of this training. Working the mitts is excellent for offenisive and defensive striking and helps “push” your limits I believe moreso than bag work.
If the mitt holder is good, they will push the fighter and keep them on thier toes throughout the workout, unlike on the bag where the person can get lazy and stay stagnant or have periods of rest and “not working” so to speak.
When speaking in terms of Kung Fu you have standard boxing mitts which can be used for all hand techniques and also with snap kicks. (Front, Side, Roundhouse-non power, inside and outside crescent, hook, spinning kicks, ect.)
Than you bring in the added benefits of Thai mitts to work power roundhouse, knees, push kicks, and elbows. These are great for power strikes and allow the fighter to power up and explode. I also include a good kick shield for practicing power kicks, particuarly front thrust and side thrust as this is good for developing both power and technique, in that the coach or instructor can have someone hold the bag and observe the kick while making critiques afterwards in regards to technique and power distribution.
Circuit and equipment training is vital in the development of good Kung Fu.
[QUOTE=Iron_Eagle_76;1095291]Another thing I would like to add to this thread is mitt work and the importance and benefits of this training. Working the mitts is excellent for offenisive and defensive striking and helps “push” your limits I believe moreso than bag work.
If the mitt holder is good, they will push the fighter and keep them on thier toes throughout the workout, unlike on the bag where the person can get lazy and stay stagnant or have periods of rest and “not working” so to speak.
When speaking in terms of Kung Fu you have standard boxing mitts which can be used for all hand techniques and also with snap kicks. (Front, Side, Roundhouse-non power, inside and outside crescent, hook, spinning kicks, ect.)
Than you bring in the added benefits of Thai mitts to work power roundhouse, knees, push kicks, and elbows. These are great for power strikes and allow the fighter to power up and explode. I also include a good kick shield for practicing power kicks, particuarly front thrust and side thrust as this is good for developing both power and technique, in that the coach or instructor can have someone hold the bag and observe the kick while making critiques afterwards in regards to technique and power distribution.
Circuit and equipment training is vital in the development of good Kung Fu.:)[/QUOTE]
make a thread. mitt work is a separate work session with a different dynamic.
[QUOTE=Brule;1095308]Can you guys keep your martial arts related discussions to the off-topic forum. This one is dedicted to celestial taoist masters and such…:eek:[/QUOTE]
Yeah, Gene is in talks to rename this place CYMac Magazine instead of Kung Fu Magazine, considering that most here lately talk about that a**ss clown more than they do Kung Fu.:eek:
Never used a wall bag before, just curious, what skills does it develop that differ from the heavy bag? Is it more of an iron palm/hand type conditioning thing?
#1-This bag is good for developing power in your strikes, at 150 pounds in brings a lot in resistance and power strike training which is essential. Mostly for boxing, although I do use kicks on it as well, but this is more for developing punching power. Knees and elbows are great for this too.
#2-The Thai bag is excellent for all strikes and is great for kicks of all ranges. Front kick and roundhouse are staple Thai kicks, but also CMA kicks such as crescents, hook, side thrust, donkey, as well as sweeps and reeping.
#3-The Double End Bag is eseential for developing a good jab, but also for parrying, evasions, bob and weave, ect. This is more for developing speed and timing as opposed to power on the heavy bags.
#4-Wrecking Ball or Body Snatcher- My boxing trainer always said there is an art to a good body shot, and this will help develop those wicked body shots due to it’s rounded shape and lower dimensions. Can also do uppercuts as well, but there is also an uppercut wall mount bag for developing those.
#5- BOB- When weighted can be a good tool to simulate an actual striking area in the head and torso that is comparable to an actual person. Again I feel this is more for speed and control but can be used for power when weighted correctly.
Feel free to add more if anyone wants to. Lot of guys like water bags so those can be done as well.
I’d still try to use them as a punching dummy. just tie it up to something and work on striking it. but then it does have that GNP usage which is a bonus. How much do they cost?
[QUOTE=hskwarrior;1096275]I’d still try to use them as a punching dummy. just tie it up to something and work on striking it. but then it does have that GNP usage which is a bonus. How much do they cost?[/QUOTE]
They used to be over 800 but you can get them for 200 or 300 now.
