Baduanjin (8-section brocade)

[QUOTE=extrajoseph;999435]I am not enjoying this “discussion” and “sharing” so I will stop and do some qigong instead. You can keep talking.[/QUOTE]

Lol
how typical - u r shown point by point how ur misconceptions r as such, and since u can’t man up and admit it, u turn tail; if this is how u rise to the challenge of frank communication, u bertter do a double session
I also find it interesting that u still r unwilling to specify which version u felt blocked and which u didn’t, even after I shared my experience openly; makes one wonder about ur intentions formposting here in the first
place - maybe u were trying to “ambush” me?!? :eek:
lol, freak…

It really is painful to “share” with you, because you don’t want to listen, you just want to hear your own words, so let me say it once more in less a “Chinese thing” way:

I know it won’t make a major difference to you whatever I say, because you can only feel the way you are capable of feeling, and do what you are capable of doing, so the best way is to let you do what you do at the level that you are capable of doing and leave it at that. After 15 years, whatever second nature you have will become first nature, so that is also fine with me because that is the way it is. So by all means, feel your counterbalance, your interplay and your lightness…

In other words, there is no point in telling you my experience, it would only be a waste of time, because at your level, you won’t be willing to and you wont be able to appreciate my experience, even though you might think otherwise and tell me you genuinely want to “share” and show me the correct way, and I am sure you will let me share with you a lot more of your verbal diarrhea as well (…it is your preconception, it is your problem, it is your issue, you are doing it wrong, how typical, you really are a conspiracy-minded chap! you don’t get it, do you? blah, blah, blah…)

LOL.

[QUOTE=Eugene;999408]I tried each posture for a few minutes, and tried to do it relaxed, but my energie was blocked in the first pic, the warrior stance, also to breath costed me some more energy,
Tx GeneChing for these links :)[/QUOTE]

Hi Eugene,

You can also try Dr. Yang’s way, push you back knee beyond your toes, stick your chest out a little, tilt your head a bit forward, use a “sword finger” turn side-on instead “one finger pointing to heaven” and raise your front arm and your back elbow a fraction as well, and see how you feel.

It says on the cover of Dr. Yang’s video “8 Simple Qigong Exercise”, but it is not that simple as you have noticed and that is a good start.

[QUOTE=extrajoseph;999407]“are you really that obtuse? or are you just doing the “Chinese thing”?
as you are doubtless aware, this is a DISCUSSION forum
people come here to DISCUSS things
DISCUSSION usually involves two or more people sharing experiences
since you had mentioned your experience trying the two different ways, I was curious which one generated the results you mentioned; hence, I attempted to engage you in a DISCUSSION about it;
so that’s why I asked;”

If you want a genuine discussion, why use a trick question?

Just tell us how you felt after doing it for 15 years with the two different ways, instead of pretending you have just noticed the difference.

You have already told me what I have done wrong, but you still have not tell us how you are doing it right and how you feel, so where is the genuine sharing?

It feels like an ambush to me.

I was born Chinese, so I cannot help but doing the “Chinese thing”. :eek:[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=extrajoseph;999459]It really is painful to “share” with you, because you don’t want to listen, you just want to hear your own words, so let me say it once more in less a “Chinese thing” way:

I know it won’t make a major difference to you whatever I say, because you can only feel the way you are capable of feeling, and do what you are capable of doing, so the best way is to let you do what you do at the level that you are capable of doing and leave it at that. After 15 years, whatever second nature you have will become first nature, so that is also fine with me because that is the way it is. So by all means, feel your counterbalance, your interplay and your lightness…

In other words, there is no point in telling you my experience, it would only be a waste of time, because at your level, you won’t be willing to and you wont be able to appreciate my experience, even though you might think otherwise and tell me you genuinely want to “share” and show me the correct way, and I am sure you will let me share with you a lot more of your verbal diarrhea as well (…it is your preconception, it is your problem, it is your issue, you are doing it wrong, how typical, you really are a conspiracy-minded chap! you don’t get it, do you? blah, blah, blah…)

LOL.[/QUOTE]

Joseph,

You are WAY projecting your issues!

Yes, I guess I am and you are not projecting.

[QUOTE=extrajoseph;999459]It really is painful to “share” with you, because you don’t want to listen, you just want to hear your own words, [/QUOTE]
really? that’s interesting, because initially, I asked for other people’s opinion, I didn’t give mine at all; so where you are getting that I want to hear my own words is strange, especially after I asked you to be specific, and you then criticized ME for not sharing openly; do you realize this contradiction in your reasoning? either you don’t which is scary, or you are trolling, which is fine, but you need to do a better job of it;

[QUOTE=extrajoseph;999459]so let me say it once more in less a “Chinese thing” way:
I know it won’t make a major difference to you whatever I say, because you can only feel the way you are capable of feeling, and do what you are capable of doing, so the best way is to let you do what you do at the level that you are capable of doing and leave it at that.[/QUOTE]
well, this, in general, is true for anyone, including yourself; so what’s your point?

[QUOTE=extrajoseph;999459] After 15 years, whatever second nature you have will become first nature, so that is also fine with me because that is the way it is. So by all means, feel your counterbalance, your interplay and your lightness…[/QUOTE]
I’m not sure why you feel the need to validate my experiences for me - why would I need for you, some random stranger on an internet forum, to tell me that it’s “ok” to feel whatever it is I am feeling? also, the tenor of your response suggests that you do not think much the content of my “open sharing” - indeed, you seem to be somewhat dismissive about the terms I use (as if they were, I don’t know, merely speculation?!?); which, frankly, is fine, because you may not wish to characterize your experience in a similar manner; however, in stead of responding in a tone that suggests belittlement, why not argue their use on their own merits if you find them inadequate or inappropriate in your estimation?

[QUOTE=extrajoseph;999459]In other words, there is no point in telling you my experience, it would only be a waste of time, because at your level, you won’t be willing to and you wont be able to appreciate my experience, even though you might think otherwise and tell me you genuinely want to “share” and show me the correct way, and I am sure you will let me share with you a lot more of your verbal diarrhea as well (…it is your preconception, it is your problem, it is your issue, you are doing it wrong, how typical, you really are a conspiracy-minded chap! you don’t get it, do you? blah, blah, blah…)[/QUOTE]
wow…:eek:
first off, where are you getting that I want to show you the “correct way”? if you recall, you were the first to “offer” instruction to me; second, seriously dude, you are just going off the deep end with this - you accuse me of asking a trick-question (which you answered, BTW:confused:), accuse me of ambushing you, accuse me of not wanting to share, and when I do accuse me of wanting to show you the correct way; whaddupwiddat?either you’re a nutter, or you’re trolling - please clarify!
second, it is a common (overused) web-fu tactic to characterize another person’s posts as predictable and excessively verbose (verbal diarrhea) in order to to get an emotional response; but honestly, such ad hominum attacks are really just pathetic and demonstrate your own lack of ability to engage in any sort of reasoned discourse - but you’ve proven that by your repeated contradicting yourself (in fact, the fact that you are still taking part in this discussion after doing your little earlier panties-in-a-bunch storm-off demonstrates that you go back on what you say as it suits you), not to mention your somewhat paranoid perspective (trick questions, ambushes, etc.);

[QUOTE=extrajoseph;999459]LOL.[/QUOTE]
yes, I’m sure that you are:rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Scott R. Brown;999473]Joseph,
You are WAY projecting your issues![/QUOTE]
and the Understatement of the Year Award goes to…the Junior Senator from Massachusetts!!!

I am sure you will have a lot more to say, please continue…

[QUOTE=extrajoseph;999477]Yes, I guess I am and you are not projecting.[/QUOTE]

Hmmm, let me get this straight…I am projecting by saying you are projecting???

How did you get there from your fantasy land?:confused:

I would be interested to learn your reasoning, since so far, you have demonstrated little ability to reason, but a very great capacity for reading nefarious intentions into the comments of others, which IS projecting!:confused:

[QUOTE=taai gihk yahn;999480]really? that’s interesting, because initially, I asked for other people’s opinion, I didn’t give mine at all; so where you are getting that I want to hear my own words is strange, especially after I asked you to be specific, and you then criticized ME for not sharing openly; do you realize this contradiction in your reasoning? either you don’t which is scary, or you are trolling, which is fine, but you need to do a better job of it;[/quote]

It is clear that by asking for other people’s opinions you are really seeking to trap others into making foolish comments in order to embarrass them!

You are ONE evil and conniving SOB!!

I’ll be keeping my eyes on you!!!:eek:

[QUOTE=Scott R. Brown;999483]Hmmm, let me get this straight…I am projecting by saying you are projecting???

How did you get there from your fantasy land?:confused:

I would be interested to learn your reasoning, since so far, you have demonstrated little ability to reason, but a very great capacity for reading nefarious intentions into the comments of others, which IS projecting!:confused:[/QUOTE]

Let me stop projecting

Let me stop project

Let me stop pro

Let me stop.

Let me

Let

[QUOTE=extrajoseph;999487]Let me stop projecting.[/QUOTE]

Please do!:slight_smile:

[QUOTE=extrajoseph;999481]I am sure you will have a lot more to say, please continue…[/QUOTE]
no, I’m pretty much done w/you and your silliness; although I must say that I was hoping for something a bit more creative than the typical response when one has no ability to refute anything that has been pointed out to them; really dissapointing…

[QUOTE=extrajoseph;999487]Let me stop projecting.[/QUOTE]
how about you just stop posting and save yourself from further embarrassment?

[QUOTE=Scott R. Brown;999485]
I’ll be keeping my eyes on you!!!:eek:[/QUOTE]
well, what else would you be doing across the street from my house with the high-powered rifle scope?

No projecting

No posting

No mind

No me

No u

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[QUOTE=extrajoseph;999500]No projecting

No posting

No mind

No me

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Peace at last!

[QUOTE=taai gihk yahn;999490]well, what else would you be doing across the street from my house with the high-powered rifle scope?[/QUOTE]

Was THAT me??:eek:

I was wondering who that was! I am glad I didn’t call the cops on him…I mean ME!!!:eek:

[QUOTE=Scott R. Brown;999503]Peace at last![/QUOTE]

Or was it put myself into eternal silence?

I forget…but since the silence is not truly silent I guess it doesn’t matter!

[QUOTE=extrajoseph;999505]Or was it put myself into eternal silence?

I forget…but since the silence is not truly silent I guess it doesn’t matter![/QUOTE]

Hey…quit stealing my lines…make up you own!:mad::stuck_out_tongue:

Or was it put myself into eternal projecting?

I forget…but since the projecting is not truly projecting I guess it doesn’t matter!

[QUOTE=Scott R. Brown;999506]Hey…quit stealing my lines…make up you own!:mad::p[/QUOTE]

I’m not sure why you feel the need to validate my experiences for me - why would I need for you, some random stranger on an internet forum, to tell me that it’s “ok” to feel whatever it is I am stealing?