Hi, I am thinking about going to the Cloud Forest Chin Woo Martial Arts Headquarters
in Winston-Salem, NC and I had some questions about the curriculum. I saw that a variety of styles were offered and I was wondering if you picked what you wanted or if you studied all of them. Thanks
Stay away from them, they’re fake.
“It is necessary to drink alcohol and pursue other fun human activities. The art of someone who is too serious has no flavour.”- Choki Motobu
Why do you say they are fake? Do they claim to teach Emperor’s long fist and then teach something else? or did they just make up thier Kung Fu out of thin air? What’s the deal with those guys anyway?
Worship me for I am GOD!!!
Well they make very strange and lofty claims. For example, David Kash claims to be a “10th degree Grandmaster”, now since when does Kung Fu have a Dan ranking system. They also use the name “Chin Woo” even though they have no connection to the Chin Woo athletic association. Aw hell, just look at they’re website http://www.dokungfu.com/
“It is necessary to drink alcohol and pursue other fun human activities. The art of someone who is too serious has no flavour.”- Choki Motobu
More evidence:
http://www.dokungfu.com/ELF.html
They claim ELF is a combination of Taiji, Bagua, amd Xingyi, but the date they claim it was created predates all of those except possibly Xingyi.
“It is necessary to drink alcohol and pursue other fun human activities. The art of someone who is too serious has no flavour.”- Choki Motobu
No connection to Chin Woo? How do you know?
I met a guy here in Chicago, at a tournament, that used to belong to that group, and he said they WERE part of Chin Woo. Apparently there was some sort of infighting between his Sifu and the guy in NC and they seperated, but I never heard they were out and out liears or anything.
Do they teach real Kung Fu? Have you seen them move at all?
Please tell all.
Nick
Worship me for I am GOD!!!
Do you see them mentioned anywhere, didn’t think so.
“It is necessary to drink alcohol and pursue other fun human activities. The art of someone who is too serious has no flavour.”- Choki Motobu
Yeah, but all those schools are descendent from the Malaysia branch. Is’nt the North Carolina branch descendent directly from Shanghi?? Don’t you have to call Shanghi directly to confirm them?
From what I understand Chin Woo has several branches, and you have to verify a school by contacting the specific branch it claims ties too. If the Emperor’s Long Fist guys are direct from Shanghi, then you have to contact Shanghi to verify, trying to verify from the Malaysian branch will get you nowhere. At least that’s the way “I” understand it.
I have a flyer from a study group run here in my area somewhere, I’ll find it and post the url and phone number in a few minutes, it should shed some light on this stuff. I don’t remember there being a tie to all those internal styles when I met with the guy, I was under the impression Emperor’s Long fist was a Northern and Southern “External” style.
NICK
Worship me for I am GOD!!!
Ok, the guy’s name is John, his number is 630 458 1558 and his url is royaldragon.4dw.com
He teaches out of a gym at a elementary school out in the west burbs. I met with him and took a couple of classes early last spring, the guy could MOVE. He was suposed to have been connected to them at one time, and his Kung Fu is NOT fake.
BUT, he also was’nt trying to say all internal styles come from Emperor’s Long Fist (Tai Tzu Wu Gong on his flyer)
The Flyer says Emperor’s Long Fist is a Northern, and Southern external style with the Six Stepp monkey also being descended from the founder’s family. There is no mention of internal stuff here, at all. So you may be right about the fraud claim.
NICK!
Worship me for I am GOD!!!
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Royal Dragon
Is a fake for sure.
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
strike!
A fake what? He is not claiming to be a “master”. He is a student of Tai Tzu(not kash’s)who is looking for some people to practice with. What’s the problem with that? He makes sure to remind people of this over and over. I trained with him a few times over last summer and he kept telling me this so much I just wanted to say “Shut up I know” So how can you be a fake if you constantly tell people what you are doing and your goals?
I knew it !
Royal Dragon !!!
AH AH AH AH AH AH AH AH AH !!!
R. 
Relik
Why don’t you tell us somthing about yourself like who your teacher is, are you a teacher, what is your connection with Tai Tzu? I just would like to know if you have some info that I need to know.
Relik, Cowards never tell. You’re obviously another “Kash Cow”.
Yen Hoi, why do you hate me? And, what style of “kung Fu” do you practice? Your profile is very vague. Relik has none, of course.
I don’t trust schools that have to rely on an “organization” for credentials.
look at the map
Have on elook at the “history of martial arts map” on the site…anyone who tels me hapkido gave birth to Aikido is a moron…aikido is a product of aiki-jujusu ..enough said.
Michael Panzerotti
Taijutsu Nobody from the Great White North..
Amazing!!!
AH AH AH AH AH AH AH AH …
Are you three joined at the hip?
Or is this a private affair???
R.
Ah!
I was joking about Royal Dragon, sorry.
I practice Wing Chun Kung Fu.
I have a background in Aikido.
I sparr frequently, and train/sparr regularly with a very competent TKD’ist - I learn alot from him.
I also cross-train with a BJJ’er who teaches me some BJJ stuff, but more importantly, how to avoid/counter BJJ stuff.
I dont hate SifuAbel, I was just making noise a few threads back.
strike!
it’s on your profile
Are you immortal?
sifuabel@yahoo.
com
Oh yeah,
That was from your thread about blank profiles.
I like it. :rolleyes:
strike!