5 venoms - ok, please post any clip of any wing chun fighter engaged in continuous friendly sparring with an opponent of another style that illustrates your points.
You have been extremely insulting and disrespectful to two very competant instructors and have no basis for the claims you state, other than the fact that apparently you don’t know what sparring is.
I will illustrate my point: you said
" And why on earth would a Wing Chun practicioner try to kick to the head, especially against a Northern stylist??"
Say it with me, slowly. S-P-A-R-R-I-N-G. Nice kicks, right?
“If he had any skill at all, he could have easily blown the other guy away!”
Exactly the attitude I got from other non-sparring warriors. You don’t just “easily blow away” someone with a 20 year background in Praying Mantis, TKD and other arts.
Sifu Milan, the WC instructor is William Chueng’s top man in Brazil. At the time, he was here in Chicago setting up classes. Don’t know if he’s still here.
The only rules were, to not really try to hurt the other guy. A good example is when the PM guy turned his back – he had just pulled a side kick to prevent hurting the other guy.
“If he had any skill at all, he could have easily blown the other guy away!”
5 Venoms actually said this? He has to be a troll, or about 13. If ANYONE has more skill then their opponent they could blow away their opponent. It gets tougher when suddenly your facing someone who is a match for you.
The thing that I think is really funny about that comment is that Southern Preying Mantis - which it looks like this guy is using - is a hell of a lot like wingchun in several of its principles.
The only 2 criticisms that could reasonably be levelled against these two practicioners, is
Not the best groundfighting skills, compared to ground specialists
Not, as of the taping, in fighting shape to last many rounds in a professional prizefight. You wouldn’t have seen that in this video, but my sifu was ragging on them for gassing relatively quickly.
Actually Red it was Northern Mantis. They are pretty busy with the hands if that’s what you mean, and as you know there are alot of similarities between different fighting styles.
I was just about to bring that point you made back up. Two fighters who are similarly matched will not “blow each other away” unless they go all out AND get lucky. Given that this was friendly sparring, that possibility is zero.
funny you should say Northern Mantis. I had an argument with someone on this forum a while back about if they looked at all alike. That looks a hell of a lot like southern mantis to me. not saying he has crappy northern, just saying I may be right after all
right, personally this 5 Venoms guy seems like a d!ckweed. I have to believe he’s a troll.
Actually I don’t believe he is a troll. If he is a troll then he is repeating the same invectives I heard from non-troll TCMA people. If this video can clear the air a bit about what happens in a non-rehearsed situation then it is worth it. Remember that most TMA instructors spend half the class time talking about how their style is unbeatable and fights can be won in 6 seconds or less. 5 Venom’s attitude is exactly what is wrong with most TMA and I blame his instructor.
BTW, 5 Venoms: I believe you that you used your art successfully in the street. I don’t believe you that you know much about sparring and friendly testing between styles.
BTW, 5 Venoms: I believe you that you used your art successfully in the street. I don’t believe you that you know much about sparring and friendly testing between styles.
I think he’s ful of sh!t. no way this guy has ever fought and still make the comments he’s made so far.
Lol, nice to hear from the twat brigade! I was going to ask about your credentials, but I see you post so much that I doubt you have any time to train.
Fa Jing, I don’t have all day to argue or defend the statements that I’ve made. You mentioned that the Praying Mantis instructor has 20 years in his art. That’s very good but again, I need to ask if that was him in the video or was that one of his students? And I never said any fighter can always blow away his opponent. But I can guarantee you if any good WC fighter were to cross arms with an oppnonet, there would be a lot more punches landed than what took place in the video.
I don’t know the Wing Chun sifu you mentioned but I have met William Cheung and he’s one of the nicest people I’ve met in the martial arts community. I started training with Chung Kwok Chow and have been with Emin Boztepe for 6 years and I’m also an instructor in another style of martial art. I do know what sparring is and I say again, the WC guy should not have attempted the high kick. There is no excuse for improper technique. I didn’t know this was meant as a casual training video, which if you had pointed that out, I would have watched in a less critical light. I don’t have any video of myself, but if you want to see me I’ll be happy to tell you where to find me. You can also meet my Sifu Boztepe when he is in town.
But hey what do I know, I’ve been declared to be 13 by someone who sits online all day and post in message boards. I am truly hurt, how will I ever face my students now. :rolleyes:
Anyways, if you or any of the guys in that video are in my area, I invite you to come for a demonstration and free training class, on a friendly basis. Just send PM me if you’re interested. (I’m in So. California)
ah ha he’s a student of boztepe’s! that would explain the retarded comments he makes, he’s been indoctrinated heavily.
LOL dewd,
I was going to ask about your credentials, but I see you post so much that I doubt you have any time to train.
I’m gonna let you in on a little secret here so you don’t look like such a newb. Quite a few of us post here while we’re at work. As a matter of fact, outside of work I can probably count the times I’ve posted here on one hand. That’s a freebie.
I am truly hurt, how will I ever face my students now.
funny story. There is a guy down the street from where I live that teaches too. He sucks, but he teaches. Turns out teaching does not make one great.
