I’m afraid to hit someone hard. I really don’t know why. I have no problem throwing you as hard as I can (not very hard) or cranking a sub out. But when it comes to striking, I hold back and can’t figure out why.
Me never, I get too competitve at times. I have actually had to force myself to hold back. I think the biggest issue is is working with those who hate to be hit. It sort of ruines it for you. Personally, I’d rather be hit hard, than thrown hard because of my back.
I fought several of Saviano’s guys once, and did good against the green belt, but got beat so bad by their Black belt my face was swollen for days. Me, I wanted more (LOL:D ) didn’t bother me one bit.
I’ve sparred others that were like “Dude, you need to learn CONTROLL” over and over again. personally, I want to spar with guys who don’t really care that you just knocked them out tree times in a row than the one allways trying to make you take it easy.
WD, bring some gear nexttime were at Myung’s together, we can play a bit if you like. I haven’t really sparred in a long time and I need the practice.
Because in society we’re taught not to go around hitting people. A lot of martial arts out there don’t train to hit either. You’ve seen the stop 1" from the face in training…what’s going to happen in a fight? Hmmmm. To get over it, put the gloves on and hit. The other person will be trying to hit you! As long as you’re not injuring each other, its good to get hit in class. Gets your body used to the shock.
I hear ya Wilson, but that’s not my problem. I was blessed by having teachers who taught me to punch by punching. It’s some kinda mental thing, and I think if I can figure out WHY I can probably fix it. I’m just not sure why.
R.D. Yeah, of course, but let’s check w/ M.J. first. I know he has a lot of material he wants to give us and I want to concentrate on that as much as possible.
Yeah…
I know what you mean. For me it happens for both physical hitting and philosophical hitting (pointing out a weak/blind spot in a person’s assertion).
What seems to work is (if it just training, not a real fight or conflict) ask the person what they want. If they say, “I want you to try and hit me, as hard as you can, if you can.” Well, you’ll find it’s easy to hit with force all of a sudden! The moral aspect is taken out. They asked for it.
If you are talking about a real fight… well you just gotta take some time and really get what war is.
-crumble
flip the switch
I read an article once that talked about mentally practicing when to “flip the switch” in your mind. It said to think about how and when it was appropriate for you to turn it all on. Like when you are reading or watching TV and a fight scene happens, think about how you would handle it. I like what Crumble said, if the person gives you the go ahead, you don’t have anything to worry about. On the street, however, you need to make sure you’ve done your mental homework and are prepared.
You don´t actually say in your post if you mean hitting in sparring match,in class in some other way or some sort of a confrontation.Maybe I´m going too much in detail as I guess you´re talking about sparring.
Thinking about this problem in general,I think it´s only think it is wise to know when to hold back for actually to hit someone hard may cause permanent problems,probably even worse than the previous one.
A situation where it would be needed,could arise,but is probably rare.If it´s the case of sparring,then it would,as previously told,needed to do in a safe manner,if possible,or forget about it.Fear may fade away if one catches the guts to face it.
Another odd thing. I’ve fought boxers before, and I WILL go all out on them. Probably ‘cause they hit friggin’ hard and have knocked my @ss out. But anyone else, I just can’t do it.
Maybe you don’t want to be percived as a brutal A S S H O L E?
Hey, if MJ has other things planned, I have a secret clearing in the woods that would work!!!
I can fix that, WD. I just need to push you to your limits (exhaustion), then come at you hard, you’ll have no choice but to let the punches fly. At least that’s what my sifu did to me. We can go just boxing rounds too. Now please don’t break my big nose ;).
-FJ
I have the exact same problem, when I get in a fight, wich is rare,I just cant hit hard, I hold my hits without wating it, If someone knows how to cure that, tell me
Dam.mit!!!
I was trying to fix the problem before we played again. Oh well. Anyhoo, per my teachers, that is most likely what’s stopping me from getting my position to throw, It’s also why I ate that da.mn knee to the solar plexus.
The level of contact depends on what you are doing. I used to workout with RD last summer and he would demonstrait a technique with you as a dummy and try to hit pretty hard(being the dummy you don’t really get to defend). So we would say “dude, control yourself”. Once you learn the drill or are sparring then it is ok to get ruff. There should be no competition amongst each other though this will hinder the learning process.
We’re doing both S.D. we’re sparring non-cooperatively to discover our weakness and then doing cooperative drill-work to fix it.
Is that the order you do it in? It would make sense to start cooperative and gradualy increast the resistance to the technique. Just curious about how you do it. Do you train with RD often? Are you guys talking about the Shuai Jiao?
I think he’s talking about me, but we’ve only met once so far for this training. We sparred kind of early on to make sure we did it while we still had energy, plus we were anxious to get going. In the future, we could do either order, the important thing is to do both. I think really, what you want to have the most focus on, you do first. It isn’t always going to be sparring.
-FJ
Maybe it’s not important WD, but when is the last time YOU were hit really hard? Could that possibly have an effect on anything?
S.D. I generally like to spar to figure out where I’m weak and fix it. Of course now I have a few things I know I need to work on, so drills and cooperative stuff is going to help me a lot now. Yeah, R.D. started coming to the Shuai Chiao class about 2-3 months ago.
Fa Jing, yup it’s you I’m referring to. fukking knee slamming ba$tard!
ewallace. Last time I got hit really hard was in a toughman against (which i find out after the fight) an amateur pro boxer who trains with Angel Manfreddy. February of 2000 was the time. **** I miss glove work. For the record, I got knocked the Fug out in the 3rd round.
I’m with ya WD. I almost never hit full force, unless we are all padded up, even then one of my biggest flaws is not being ruthless enough.
also my knuckles won’t stand up to the amount of power I can develop from the waist.