[QUOTE=Yoshiyahu;935644]How can you take into account Hendriks Views when they sound like rubbish? or Mumbo Jumbo![/QUOTE]
Because I understand a little of what he is talking about.
Its hard to explain but it goes along the lines of confusing the map with the terrain, or words can be used to describe but too often get confused with what is.
Is needs to be experienced, Is is not a story.
[QUOTE=t_niehoff;935660]In my view a great deal of TCMA stuff is rubbish. The whole qi paradigm, for example, is rubbish. However, it is traditionally a part of TCMA. Hendrik KNOWS that stuff to a very high level. My point is that if someone is interested in that stuff, they would be wise to take Hendrik’s views into account. Likewise, I think very, very few people have the “education” on those subjects I mentioned in my previous post as does Hendrik. So, for example, to argue about qi cultivation with Hendrik is like arguing grappling with Dale (knifefighter) who is a BJJ BB – most people here are simply not in their league.[/QUOTE]
Okay buddy. But as for Chi Cultivation what use is all that knowledge if he cant fight with the stuff. head knowledge with out the ability to fight with it is nonsense and will begin to lead you into fantasy land.
[QUOTE=Yoshiyahu;935671]Okay buddy. But as for Chi Cultivation what use is all that knowledge if he cant fight with the stuff. head knowledge with out the ability to fight with it is nonsense and will begin to lead you into fantasy land.[/QUOTE]
What you can get from it is mental health, physical health, peace of mind, a sense of being centered and other stuff.
Not everything has to do with fighting.
I am just a dabbler but I use some of it to help control my diabetes (type II) and my arthritis. At 55 there are a lot more important things than fighting.
T Niehoff’s post on Hendrik
I often don’t agree with Terence on wing chun matters, and sometimes don’t agree with Hendrik on some wing chun matters- but Terence’s post on Hendrik is right on the money.
For a long time at the beginning I didn’t know what to make of Yik Kam wing chun- given the relatively sudden appearances of several quite different claims on “original wing chun”.And Wang kew Kit(who also is from Yik Kam lines) works with so many different styles including claiming wing chun. Hendrik’s wing chun lineage also has some CLF but he has explained how his lineage keeps their wc separate from their CLF. And I have seen Hendrik’s SLT- it is wing chun-- a much softer version than WT or TWC. And I have taken a glance at some of his documents on Emei training postures. Sometimes in historical chronology he loses me(he needs to respond to Rolf some more on dates and clear up some confusions)…but there is no doubt about his painstaking research. Someone can be fluent in Chinese but may not be able to do justice to specialized texts.
His understanding of Buddhism in it all its diversity is considerable and his understanding of Chan is very clear.He not only has had direct top flight instruction but he took time to master the older terms in order to deal with the texts. He practices Buddhism- that is why even though he has fought in his early years- he gave up fighting but tries to point nevertheless to other main virtues of wing chun.In spite of all the brickbats thrown at him he returns to try and explain his main points.In his place I would just ignore those guys.
My wing chun is different from Hendrik’s but I respect his style. And on Buddhism- I pay close attention to what he has to say and he is pretty clear to me.. His English may not be always clear- but some of his main detractors need to go back to nursery school to learn their English.
It’s better to give good reasons for differences of opinion than to be sarcastic.
PS I dont pay attention to his songs. Everyone has their own personality.
joy chaudhuri
PS. My problem is noy spelling for the most part but two finger keyboarding sometimes in the dark. You need some dark in the blazing Arizona sun.I seldom useda typewriter0 had others do the typing.
[QUOTE=Yoshiyahu;935671]Okay buddy. But as for Chi Cultivation what use is all that knowledge if he cant fight with the stuff. head knowledge with out the ability to fight with it is nonsense and will begin to lead you into fantasy land.[/QUOTE]
I’ve already answered this question.
And quite frankly, as you are firmly entrenched in your own fantasy land, your objection seems simply a case of the pot calling the kettle “black.”
Occassional, light play fighting in your sifu’s backyard as you claim to do is not fighting, doesn’t develop fighting skills, and doesn’t make you a fighter. As I’ve told you, go visit and train at some places where they really train fighters and they fight as part of their training, i.e., a muay thai school or MMA school or boxing gym. Until you do THAT, you simply don’t know what you are talking about.
Thanks Terence and Joy, appreciate!
[QUOTE=m1k3;935619]Good information, but he still seems to follow the Zen practice of never explain too clearly.[/QUOTE]
Zen is crystal clear without explanation.
But you got to let go your mind.
But as for Chi Cultivation what use is all that knowledge if he cant fight with the stuff.
head knowledge with out the ability to fight with it is nonsense and will begin to lead you into fantasy land.
how could one do combat well before one knows how to live?
HOw could a person succesfully direct the qi without being able to enter alpha brain wave state at will?
how does the Qi become the laser pointed that guide the Jin?
How could a person with a scatted mind and un aware of his own mind and body to participate in a high speed spotless execution when every second counts?
in case some one doesnt know what is High Speed Spotless, the following movie clip action give some feeling but that is not real either it is just for communication purpose, can be missed leading if one takes that as real or exactly what I mean.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7ftozVc3lI
Read your own posts and from there read your own mind to see what type of mind do you got? can that mind do anything extraordinary? as said in the clip " the sheep or the Wolf"? who are you? that cannot be hide from the signature you left on your trace.
The cosmos is vast but the frog think it is as big as the opening of the well it got trap in without knowing it was a trap.
I dont choose fighting because I cant effort to lose and Dont want to lose. I hate to lose.
how could one do combat well before one knows how to live?
Mike Tyson seemed to manage.
[QUOTE=anerlich;935726]Mike Tyson seemed to manage.[/QUOTE]
sure,
A tiger can do that too so do you want to become a Tiger or Mike Tyson?
The serious question is can you be them?
The serious question is can you be them?
The seious question is what drugs you are on.
[QUOTE=t_niehoff;935691]I’ve already answered this question.
And quite frankly, as you are firmly entrenched in your own fantasy land, your objection seems simply a case of the pot calling the kettle “black.”
Occassional, light play fighting in your sifu’s backyard as you claim to do is not fighting, doesn’t develop fighting skills, and doesn’t make you a fighter. As I’ve told you, go visit and train at some places where they really train fighters and they fight as part of their training, i.e., a muay thai school or MMA school or boxing gym. Until you do THAT, you simply don’t know what you are talking about.[/QUOTE]
Which school will you be at on Saturday?
[QUOTE=Hendrik;935718]Zen is crystal clear without explanation.
But you got to let go your mind.[/QUOTE]
The Way that can be spoken of is not the true Way.
So-onward through the fog!
And you are speaking!
joy chaudhuri (retreat to silence)
[QUOTE=Yoshiyahu;935758]Which school will you be at on Saturday?[/QUOTE]
How many times do I have to tell you that I want absolutely nothing to do with you? What does it take to get that simple message through your thick skull?
I’ve learned through experience not to have anything to do with unbalanced persons. And I think you are seriously unbalanced. Your private emails to me, and to others, what you have said on this forum, your screen name, my intimate knowledge of your group, etc. – everything – corroborates my impression.
If you want to see what you can really do with your WCK, then do what you’ve never done in your life: go visit and spar with some genuine fighters. Or, don’t – and continue to live in your fantasy world. Either way, I still don’t want anything to do with you.
Yoshiyahu
I don’ t know what the judgment of the moderator is but IMO you are seriously misusing
the forum- why make a fool of yourself?
joy chaudhuri
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And you are speaking!
joy chaudhuri (retreat to silence)[/QUOTE]
Touche! 
[QUOTE=Vajramusti;935799]I don’ t know what the judgment of the moderator is but IMO you are seriously misusing
the forum- why make a fool of yourself?
joy chaudhuri[/QUOTE]
Ha Ha funny…you make me laugh…Lighting up guy..have fun…