Wushu Chik,
My drastic change (and many may not like this) would be to ban Ralek and his IP address. He really doesn’t bug me all that much, and I don’t really respond to him at all, but if a great deal of posters don’t post anymore I’d ban him. Also I’d immediately erase any threads linking pictures of pornography, disgusting pictures of dead bodies, etc. and ban the ones who had linked them without giving a second chance. First strike, and your out.
Sounds kinda harsh, but that’s probably what I’d do.
And I’d try to keep the flaming down as well. No 8 page shouting matches.
The problem with banning individual trolls is that everyones’ definition of a troll varies. We probably all agree that rolls/ralek is a troll but what of the many other induvid’s who lurk around here in less formal attire? My definition of a troll is anyone who does NOT practice some form of CMA and hangs around here to start sh!t. Most of the grappling/bjj posters come to mind. Honestly I can’t imagine any other reasons why these bozos would want to hang around on a KF forum other than the fact that they enjoy starting crap with the CMA posters. We do have some CMA posters that have rubbed many of us the wrong way. I know that Sifu Abel is labled a troll by many but he is a CMA pract. and most of the flaming poosts he has been in involved a grappling/bjj guy. Knifefighter, for example, constantly disses CMA and does nothing on this board but claim renown for himself undeer a faceless tag with his exploits in supposed “cage matches” that can never be verified as he will not reveal who he is. I like many other of thwe respondents to this thread do not post on this forum any more. I do post a little on cyberkwwon and e-budo at times. I dont mind the heavy moderation because the only time you notice it is if you try to post a blatantly flaming/dissresectful post
My advice to return this place to civility would be to ban all the non CMA posters and make a seperate grappling/bjj forum for them. As soon as one of them came over here and poated something like “(insert name) I challenge you to a match here in (insert place) so you can test your Kung Fu skills…” I would spike it quicker than a bolt of lightening. Let them post the challenge on their own forum where only they give a **** about it and we can all ignore it. All those that whine about the “openes and variety” of the disscussion around here being lost I garantee are some of the contributors to the crap. :o
I just thought i’d raise the point that it would be difficult if not impossible to remove a troll on the basis of their IP address.
Surely most isp’s use the same or similar methods of IP assignment as mine.
ie. the isp I currently use assigns a dynamic IP each time I dial up to them. Now my previous ISP (which charged a bit more) assigned a fixed IP, so every time I logged on, my local and remote adresses remained the same.
However most ISP’s (in the UK anyway) use dynamic IP’s as it is significantly cheaper and less wasteful than to designate a specific IP to each client.
Ryu..I do agree with you on many of your points. I don’t think that getting rid of everyone but CMA people is the way to go, because we wouldn’t get all the different aspects of OTHER martial arts.
But, I do feel that there should be a “Strike” Law…Ralek, he’s struck out so many times, he should be banned from the net period! And all the other little b@stards that keep talking crap…they should be gone too. It can’t be hard to ban them. And, I know that the mods can NOT OK a new user. They should take a little extra time (sorry kung lek) and try to clean up the crap!
banning an IP address would not work, as i changed mine a good 30 or 40 times yesterday trying to get my darned new web cam to work. takes aout ten seconds from your start menu on a cable modem.
anyhoo, one thing we all need to consider is that this is a FORUM – a body of lots of people who offer their perspectives. honestly, as much as i can’t stand ralek for what he’s doing to this board, he has raised some pretty subtle questions about our own arrogance and skills. consider ralek to be the zoo exhibit. if we feed him good stuff, he’ll grow into something healthy. if we feed him crap, he’ll be unhealthy and crabby. and if we taunt him, he’s going to poop in his hand and throw it at us.
nuff said? not nearly.
it’s our own job to do this thing right. a forum rests on the shoulders of forum members. i have a jackson that says gene doesn’t have the money to pay kung lek and renegade monk – unless you’re newsweek or sports illustrated, the publication business is far from greatly profitable. and we all know how lucrative the online industry has been lately. so it’s our job. that doesn’t mean we all need to assume moderator or cybernannyator (good one, kung lek :)) status and nazi-fy this board. instead, we should post good stuff as we can, get off topic on random issues on occasion, and just be good forum participants. we should freaking thank gene for putting the forum up, and thank kung lek and renegade monk for their efforts as well. if this board all of a sudden takes off in a huge way with all sorts of money pouring in, then gene can rethink this and maybe even throw some scratch toward his moderators. until then, maybe they’ll have to survive on gratitude.
thanks, gene, kung lek and renegade monk!
okay. off the soapbox. and no, i’m not perfect. i’ve fed the trolls a twinky or two and i’m paying for it along with the rest of you guys.
so let’s all think about at least one discussion that’d be appropriate for this forum this week and post it. if we all do at least one, that’d be at least (counting on fingers) 8,938,126.
this is not really relevant to this thread but Eagle Claw was last taught in military in WWII in Hong Kong/China from what ive heard, so if the person you fought was not an old chinese man… so i guess he was not eagle claw at all
