I found this e-mailed essay by ex-CIA operative Joe Galloway and author of “We Were Soliders Once and Young.” to sum up all my feelings on the subject of how I could care less about the bullcrap viewpoints of our global comrades.
To me it hit all the right notes. For those that wish please read it.
http://www.mikeonline.com/events/viewofworld.html
Bless the USA.
Amen to that.
Yup, throw in the liberation of Kuati, and that about covers it.
funny how quickly we forget…
Good. Really good!
okay I read it…
I’ll have to read it again as I’m still not quite sure what point he aiming at.
The U.S. has saved many nations from “bad guys”(my term)… okay, and for this they should either respect us or fear us. Otherwise the U.S. and it’s people shouldn’t care if the U.S. is “liked.” On occasion when the U.S. does something like drop an atomic bomb on some city, anyone who wasn’t effected should still either fear or respect the U.S. or be thankful because they, or their decendants are probably better off for it.
Okay, the Guy seems to have a lot of love for the accomplishments of his military. I wonder what his thoughts would be on … oh, NIXXON? 
or Clinton…
Design Sifu, I was waiting for someone to realy miss the point. The guy knows there are bad points to his beloved country as well, but it wasn’t his point to go down the list of good/bad, he was trying to make that point that no matter how many public opinion polls there are out there in the world, and no matter how many non-americans bad mouth us for our foreign policies, in general we don’t wield the power we could if we wanted to and for the motst part we use what we have for “good”.
put it in perspective if you need to, what would Hitler have done with our nuclear arsenal? What would Saddam do, or those in power in N. Korea? Yet we have had the largest arsenal for decades and still have not used it to get our way, to coerce or force others to bow to us. It shows a measure of restraint on the american people that we haven’t started WW3…
Originally posted by red5angel
It shows a measure of restraint on the american people that we haven’t started WW3…
Yet. 
A few bits of info I would like to add to this:
1.) Anti-US sentiments were illegal in South Korea until a few years ago, this does not mean that there were none.
Anti-N.Korean are still illegal.
2.) How long after “saving” a country does the USA want that country to kowtow and keep kissing their feet for saving that Country?? 60yrs, 100yrs, forever.
Just some thoughts that came to mind.
your still playing the clown I see…
1.) What does that have to do with the US? Here in this country we don’t make laws like that.
2.) Apparently just long enough for most of them to “forget” their debts to our country and for their governments to make it sound as if they could have done it without us. :rolleyes: Oh yeah and for their spoiled younger generations to get on the internet and yap about how much the US sucks…
Originally posted by Laughing Cow
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2.) How long after “saving” a country does the USA want that country to kowtow and keep kissing their feet for saving that Country?? 60yrs, 100yrs, forever.
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Only for as long as they expect to reap the benefits of having us as an ally. As far as I’m concerned, The French can all start learning Chinese.
Black Jack, I’ll just add this to your post:
I sat in a movie theater watching “Schindler’s List,” asked
myself, “Why didn’t the Jews fight back?”
Now I know why.
I sat in a movie theater, watching “Pearl Harbor” and asked
myself, “Why weren’t we prepared?”
Now I know why.
Civilized people cannot fathom, much less predict, the actions of
evil people. On September 11, dozens of capable airplane passengers allowed
themselves to be overpowered by a handful of poorly armed terrorists
because they did not comprehend the depth of hatred that motivated
their captors. On September 11, thousands of innocent people were murdered
because too many Americans naively reject the reality that some nations
are dedicated to the dominance of others. Many political pundits,
pacifists and media personnel want us to forget the carnage. They
say we must focus on the bravery of the rescuers and ignore the
cowardice of the killers. They implore us to understand the motivation of the perpetrators. Major television stations have announced they will assist the healing process by not replaying devastating footage of the planes crashing into the Twin Towers.
I will not be manipulated.
I will not pretend to understand.
I will not forget.
I will not forget the liberal media who abused freedom of the press
to kick our country when it was vulnerable and hurting.
I will not forget that CBS anchor Dan Rather preceded President
Bush’s address to the nation with the snide remark, “No matter how
you feel about him, he is still our president.”
I will not forget that ABC TV anchor Peter Jennings questioned
President Bush’s motives for not returning immediately to
Washington, DC and commented, “We’re all pretty skeptical and cynical about Washington.”
And I will not forget that ABC’s Mark Halperin warned if reporters wern’t
informed of every little detail of this war, they aren’t
“likely – nor should they be expected – to show deference.”
I will not isolate myself from my fellow Americans by pretending
an attack on the USS Cole in Yemen was not an attack on the United
States of America.
I will not forget the Clinton administration equipped Islamic
terrorists and their supporters with the world’s most sophisticated
telecommunications equipment and encryption technology, thereby
compromising America’s ability to trace terrorist radio, cell phone,
land lines, faxes and modem communications.
I will not be appeased with pointless, quick retaliatory strikes
like those perfected by the previous administration.
I will not be comforted by “feel-good, do nothing” regulations
like the silly, “Have your bags been under your control?” question at
the airport.
I will not be influenced by so called,“antiwar demonstrators” who
exploit the right of _expression to chant anti-American obscenities.
I will not forget the moral victory handed the North Vietnamese by
American war protesters who reviled and spat upon the returning
soldiers, airmen, sailors and marines.
I will not be softened by the wishful thinking of pacifists who chose
reassurance over reality.
I will embrace the wise words of Prime Minister Tony Blair who told
the Labor Party conference, “They have no moral inhibition on the
slaughter of the innocent. If they could have murdered not 7,000
but 70,000, does anyone doubt they would have done so and rejoiced in
it?
There is no compromise possible with such people, no meeting of
minds, no point of understanding with such terror. Just a choice:
defeat it or be defeated by it. And defeat it we must!”
I will force myself to:
> -hear the weeping
-feel the helplessness
-imagine the terror
-sense the panic
-smell the burning flesh
- experience the loss
- remember the hatred.
I sat in a movie theater, watching "Private Ryan" and asked myself,
"Where did they find the courage?"
Now I know.
We have no choice.. Living without liberty is not living.
-- Ed Evans, MGySgt., USMC (Ret.) --
Originally posted by red5angel
your still playing the clown I see…
Naah, I have given up, compared to your skill at clowniness.
There is no way that anybody will ever be as good as you.
Bows to the Master.
If you don’t like the US, then you don’t. What do I care.
I’ve lived in Europe and I prefer the US. I think it’s just jealosy on the Europeans part, although they will never admit it.
hooah dnc101…
LC- :rolleyes: keerist brother I got out of grade school along time ago…
Originally posted by red5angel
Design Sifu, I was waiting for someone to realy miss the point. The guy knows there are bad points to his beloved country as well, but it wasn’t his point to go down the list of good/bad,
If that was his point, he didn’t make it very well. I don’t think Design Sifu was being obtuse. I think that article was a grab bag of ‘change the subject’ logical falacies at best.
I think you are superimposing your ideas on that article when they aren’t really there. Maybe only hinted at, but that hint is lost in a lot of what is pure emotion provocation.
That article was written for the exclusive benefit of people who already agree with that guy completely. I think, to the rest of us, he was just all over the place.
I am not a US hater - I recognise both the good and the bad things about the US and I think all things considered the US tries to make the best of bad situations 
However, do you think that it is good for countries to fear the US? At the risk of sounding like Yoda, don’t you think that fear leads to things like Sept. 11?
Originally posted by red5angel
1.) What does that have to do with the US? Here in this country we don’t make laws like that.
Never said you did, just pointing out that other countries did and since the Law was repealed it appears to a lot of Americans that all of a sudden S.Korea turned anti-US when the sentiment was always there.
Meaning that it seemed that the USA had a lot of support when in reality it didn’t.
But I guess any sharing of Information is an attack on you Guys and your values.
eulerfan, almost all articles are written for those who agree with the one writing them. Especially articles such as this. However, I think he made his points as well a she needs to and I don’t really believe I need to argue with americans over what is his real point. His real point is that he is sick and tired of being surrounded by people who can’t appreciate what they have, much less leave the country to be attacked by people who don’t know and don’t understand.
I walk by our courthouse here in minneapolis daily, and almost weekly there is some protest going on. Sometimes they are about local issues, don’t cut down the trees in such and such a county, don’t build the new highway or knock down that building, etc… Sometimes, like as of late, I here AMERICANS exersising their AMERICAN to bad mouth the way this country is. What bothers me the most, is that I spent plenty of time travelling the world some in our countries service, some without, and I know what I can and cannot appreciate that we do or do not have.
The guy had several valid ponts and that is ultimately what matters to me.
But you kow what really makes me sad eulerfan? I spent some time in Somalia, and even got shot at, although luckily no one was killed. We were there for humanitarian reasons, we were there to take the bad guys out of power so the good guys could start rebuilding. when things fell apart we offered amnesty to the people there.
The day after 9/11 I stood at my bus stop while all the somali cab drivers next to me talked (in somali, but I lived in the country long enough to pick some of it up) excitedly about what had happened. A few didn’t agree but most were elated. As my bus pulled up, I heard something that will live with me for the rest of my life, a somali woman walked past and chanted to the men standing there, “God bless (some name here) for what those brave men did yesterday, declared war on the people of america.” A woman who lives here in this country, cursing us and praying to her god that 3000 of us were killed, regardless of belief, color, or nationality.
As the bus pulled away and I saw the woman chatting with the men, I kept thinking to myself “If this was Somalia, I could have killed her on the street for saying what she did, and no one would have stopped me and nothing would have been done afterwards.”
LC, we never asked Europe to kow-tow to us, or to kiss our feet. But we do get a little tired of saving your collective arses, only to have you turn around and spit in our face. The point here is the same one I made to you before: if we were to pull our forces out of Europe today, tomorrow you’d be changing your name to Recalcitrant Cow. Europe would be on it’s knees, begging us to come back. It has been American power and sacrifice that has kept Europe safe in the greater than 50 years since WW II. How long after should you be thankful to us? Even a day would be nice!